[Live-demo] OSGeoLive 6.5 Status: Beta

Thu Jan 10 11:50:32 PST 2013

Peter, we are on IRC discussing this now. Please join us if you are 
available:
irc://freenode.net#osgeolive

On 11/01/13 06:41, Peter Baumann wrote:
> Hi Alex + all,
>
> hm, rasdaman is  Big Data Analytics engine (to use the common buzzword 
> used for data-scalable stuff today), so demoing on 100 kB or so will 
> be less convincing. So to allow a fair share of suitable use cases for 
> each tool, we'd need...not Petabytes, but a few 100 MB are 
> appreciated. Note that even tools not aligned in the massive data 
> sector have significant data sets on Live.
>
> just some thoughts,
> Peter
>
>
>
> On 01/10/2013 07:26 PM, Alex Mandel wrote:
>> Eventually, we'll get there... a few other factors come into play:
>> availability/cost of larger sticks ( 4 GB sticks are common and cheap )
>> and limited bandwidth in many places for the download (We're still
>> capped at 4.4 GB for a DVD). Both of those also push us in the direction
>> of smaller builds.
>>
>> At the same time we need to have some line to draw so that it doesn't
>> grow out of control either. Hence we've asked all apps to make samples
>> using the common datasets (which are open source data too - projects in
>> themselves).
>>
>> We already recommend 8 GB sticks so that people have extra space to make
>> a persistent stick and have space to save work.
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Alex
>>
>> On 01/10/2013 10:13 AM, Beccati, Alan wrote:
>>> Angelos,
>>> I see you point there however,
>>>
>>> 1 - I am not sure how much effort will take to have the common 
>>> dataset loaded (if it not there already) and that will probably also 
>>> limit demonstration domains
>>> 2 - Keeping the current size is indeed an option but the issue is 
>>> that it didn't get loaded at all (still looking into the root cause 
>>> of that)
>>>
>>> As a final thought we have choice number 3: since OSGEOLive is 
>>> growing with many projects and as new applications come out they 
>>> will require even more space, why do not go directly for an 8GB 
>>> target that would fit both recent DVD and USB sticks (and users will 
>>> be happy to continue using such an usb stick afterwards and will 
>>> likely bring around the live logo on it).
>>>
>>> Alan
>>> _______________________________________________________________
>>>
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>>> Provost & Geschäftsführerin Prof. Dr.-Ing. Katja Windt
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>>> ________________________________________
>>> From: Angelos Tzotsos [gcpp.kalxas at gmail.com]
>>> Sent: 10 January 2013 18:14
>>> To: Beccati, Alan
>>> Cc: OSGeo Live Mailing List
>>> Subject: Re: [Live-demo] OSGeoLive 6.5 Status: Beta
>>>
>>> Hi Alan,
>>>
>>> In past releases the rasdaman demonstration data were reduced on 
>>> purpose
>>> (in collaboration with rasdaman members) because we are really very
>>> short of disk space.
>>>
>>> Right now we are at 3.5G which is near our up limit for creating a
>>> bootable USB stick.
>>> So I believe that there are 2 choices:
>>>
>>> 1. to get rasdaman to use the common dataset (natural earth etc)
>>> 2. to keep the same size of rasdaman datasets as they are now. If you
>>> wish to change the data, it is ok, as soon as the target size is the
>>> same as before.
>>>
>>> Thoughts?
>>>
>>> On 01/10/2013 06:43 PM, Beccati, Alan wrote:
>>>> Hi Angelos,
>>>>
>>>> I think next week would be better so we can break up the datasets 
>>>> and prioritize them if a reduction is needed meanwhile, we also 
>>>> have some pages on the demonstrator to update so the deadline for 
>>>> fixing them is still needed so we can verify them with the next 
>>>> beta build.
>>>> If you will still discuss that on IRC keep me posted please.
>>>>
>>>> Thanks,
>>>> Alan
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> ________________________________________
>>>> From: Angelos Tzotsos [gcpp.kalxas at gmail.com]
>>>> Sent: 10 January 2013 17:33
>>>> To: Beccati, Alan
>>>> Cc: Eike Hinderk Jürrens; OSGeo Live Mailing List
>>>> Subject: Re: [Live-demo] OSGeoLive 6.5 Status: Beta
>>>>
>>>> Hi Alan,
>>>>
>>>> If you want to discuss the data/disk space issue, please join us 
>>>> tonight
>>>> on IRC #osgeolive (Freenode) at 19:30 UTC, where we will have the 
>>>> weekly
>>>> meeting.
>>>>
>>>> Cheers,
>>>> Angelos
>>>>
>>>> On 01/10/2013 06:24 PM, Beccati, Alan wrote:
>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>
>>>>> We are investigating our data load issue, do we have a schedule / 
>>>>> deadline for changes to get into the next beta build?
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>> Alan
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Alan Beccati, PhD
>>>>> Post-doctoral Fellow
>>>>> Large-Scale Scientific Information Systems (L-SIS) Research Group
>>>>> Jacobs University Bremen gGmbH
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>>>>>
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>>>>>
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>>>>> President & Geschäftsführer Prof. Dr. Heinz-Otto Peitgen
>>>>> Provost & Geschäftsführerin Prof. Dr.-Ing. Katja Windt
>>>>> Chair Board of Governors: Prof. Dr. Karin Lochte
>>>>> ________________________________________
>>>>> From: live-demo-bounces at lists.osgeo.org 
>>>>> [live-demo-bounces at lists.osgeo.org] on behalf of Eike Hinderk 
>>>>> Jürrens [e.h.juerrens at 52north.org]
>>>>> Sent: 08 January 2013 14:56
>>>>> To: OSGeo Live Mailing List
>>>>> Subject: Re: [Live-demo] OSGeoLive 6.5 Status: Beta
>>>>>
>>>>> Am 07.01.2013 20:32, schrieb Angelos Tzotsos:
>>>>>> [...]
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 1. We kindly request *all projects* that are included in 
>>>>>> OSGeoLive to
>>>>>> *test* this first beta and make a complete run of their Quickstart
>>>>>> guide. We feel that if a user fails to complete a Quickstart guide,
>>>>>> this would reflect badly to the project and the live disk, so we 
>>>>>> need
>>>>>> to run a full round of QA at this stage. Please report your findings
>>>>>> through Trac [5] and status spreadsheet [6]
>>>>> 52nSOS -> done
>>>>>
>>>>>> [...]
>>>>> Kind regards and happy new year,
>>>>> Eike
>>>>>
>>>>> -- 
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>>>> -- 
>>>> Angelos Tzotsos
>>>> Remote Sensing Laboratory
>>>> National Technical University of Athens
>>>> http://users.ntua.gr/tzotsos
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>> -- 
>>> Angelos Tzotsos
>>> Remote Sensing Laboratory
>>> National Technical University of Athens
>>> http://users.ntua.gr/tzotsos
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