[Live-demo] OSGeoLive 6.5 Status: Beta

Peter Baumann p.baumann at jacobs-university.de
Thu Jan 10 11:53:51 PST 2013 

ok, I'm there...

On 01/10/2013 08:50 PM, Cameron Shorter wrote:
> Peter, we are on IRC discussing this now. Please join us if you are available:
> irc://freenode.net#osgeolive
>
> On 11/01/13 06:41, Peter Baumann wrote:
>> Hi Alex + all,
>>
>> hm, rasdaman is  Big Data Analytics engine (to use the common buzzword used 
>> for data-scalable stuff today), so demoing on 100 kB or so will be less 
>> convincing. So to allow a fair share of suitable use cases for each tool, 
>> we'd need...not Petabytes, but a few 100 MB are appreciated. Note that even 
>> tools not aligned in the massive data sector have significant data sets on Live.
>>
>> just some thoughts,
>> Peter
>>
>>
>>
>> On 01/10/2013 07:26 PM, Alex Mandel wrote:
>>> Eventually, we'll get there... a few other factors come into play:
>>> availability/cost of larger sticks ( 4 GB sticks are common and cheap )
>>> and limited bandwidth in many places for the download (We're still
>>> capped at 4.4 GB for a DVD). Both of those also push us in the direction
>>> of smaller builds.
>>>
>>> At the same time we need to have some line to draw so that it doesn't
>>> grow out of control either. Hence we've asked all apps to make samples
>>> using the common datasets (which are open source data too - projects in
>>> themselves).
>>>
>>> We already recommend 8 GB sticks so that people have extra space to make
>>> a persistent stick and have space to save work.
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> Alex
>>>
>>> On 01/10/2013 10:13 AM, Beccati, Alan wrote:
>>>> Angelos,
>>>> I see you point there however,
>>>>
>>>> 1 - I am not sure how much effort will take to have the common dataset 
>>>> loaded (if it not there already) and that will probably also limit 
>>>> demonstration domains
>>>> 2 - Keeping the current size is indeed an option but the issue is that it 
>>>> didn't get loaded at all (still looking into the root cause of that)
>>>>
>>>> As a final thought we have choice number 3: since OSGEOLive is growing with 
>>>> many projects and as new applications come out they will require even more 
>>>> space, why do not go directly for an 8GB target that would fit both recent 
>>>> DVD and USB sticks (and users will be happy to continue using such an usb 
>>>> stick afterwards and will likely bring around the live logo on it).
>>>>
>>>> Alan
>>>> _______________________________________________________________
>>>>
>>>> Commercial Registry: Amtsgericht Bremen, HRB 18 117
>>>> President & Geschäftsführer Prof. Dr. Heinz-Otto Peitgen
>>>> Provost & Geschäftsführerin Prof. Dr.-Ing. Katja Windt
>>>> Chair Board of Governors: Prof. Dr. Karin Lochte
>>>> ________________________________________
>>>> From: Angelos Tzotsos [gcpp.kalxas at gmail.com]
>>>> Sent: 10 January 2013 18:14
>>>> To: Beccati, Alan
>>>> Cc: OSGeo Live Mailing List
>>>> Subject: Re: [Live-demo] OSGeoLive 6.5 Status: Beta
>>>>
>>>> Hi Alan,
>>>>
>>>> In past releases the rasdaman demonstration data were reduced on purpose
>>>> (in collaboration with rasdaman members) because we are really very
>>>> short of disk space.
>>>>
>>>> Right now we are at 3.5G which is near our up limit for creating a
>>>> bootable USB stick.
>>>> So I believe that there are 2 choices:
>>>>
>>>> 1. to get rasdaman to use the common dataset (natural earth etc)
>>>> 2. to keep the same size of rasdaman datasets as they are now. If you
>>>> wish to change the data, it is ok, as soon as the target size is the
>>>> same as before.
>>>>
>>>> Thoughts?
>>>>
>>>> On 01/10/2013 06:43 PM, Beccati, Alan wrote:
>>>>> Hi Angelos,
>>>>>
>>>>> I think next week would be better so we can break up the datasets and 
>>>>> prioritize them if a reduction is needed meanwhile, we also have some 
>>>>> pages on the demonstrator to update so the deadline for fixing them is 
>>>>> still needed so we can verify them with the next beta build.
>>>>> If you will still discuss that on IRC keep me posted please.
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>> Alan
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> ________________________________________
>>>>> From: Angelos Tzotsos [gcpp.kalxas at gmail.com]
>>>>> Sent: 10 January 2013 17:33
>>>>> To: Beccati, Alan
>>>>> Cc: Eike Hinderk Jürrens; OSGeo Live Mailing List
>>>>> Subject: Re: [Live-demo] OSGeoLive 6.5 Status: Beta
>>>>>
>>>>> Hi Alan,
>>>>>
>>>>> If you want to discuss the data/disk space issue, please join us tonight
>>>>> on IRC #osgeolive (Freenode) at 19:30 UTC, where we will have the weekly
>>>>> meeting.
>>>>>
>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>> Angelos
>>>>>
>>>>> On 01/10/2013 06:24 PM, Beccati, Alan wrote:
>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> We are investigating our data load issue, do we have a schedule / 
>>>>>> deadline for changes to get into the next beta build?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>> Alan
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Alan Beccati, PhD
>>>>>> Post-doctoral Fellow
>>>>>> Large-Scale Scientific Information Systems (L-SIS) Research Group
>>>>>> Jacobs University Bremen gGmbH
>>>>>> Research I, room 89
>>>>>> Campus Ring 1
>>>>>> 28759 Bremen
>>>>>> Germany
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Office Jacobs University: +49 421 200 3187
>>>>>> www.jacobs-university.de
>>>>>> _______________________________________________________________
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Commercial Registry: Amtsgericht Bremen, HRB 18 117
>>>>>> President & Geschäftsführer Prof. Dr. Heinz-Otto Peitgen
>>>>>> Provost & Geschäftsführerin Prof. Dr.-Ing. Katja Windt
>>>>>> Chair Board of Governors: Prof. Dr. Karin Lochte
>>>>>> ________________________________________
>>>>>> From: live-demo-bounces at lists.osgeo.org 
>>>>>> [live-demo-bounces at lists.osgeo.org] on behalf of Eike Hinderk Jürrens 
>>>>>> [e.h.juerrens at 52north.org]
>>>>>> Sent: 08 January 2013 14:56
>>>>>> To: OSGeo Live Mailing List
>>>>>> Subject: Re: [Live-demo] OSGeoLive 6.5 Status: Beta
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Am 07.01.2013 20:32, schrieb Angelos Tzotsos:
>>>>>>> [...]
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 1. We kindly request *all projects* that are included in OSGeoLive to
>>>>>>> *test* this first beta and make a complete run of their Quickstart
>>>>>>> guide. We feel that if a user fails to complete a Quickstart guide,
>>>>>>> this would reflect badly to the project and the live disk, so we need
>>>>>>> to run a full round of QA at this stage. Please report your findings
>>>>>>> through Trac [5] and status spreadsheet [6]
>>>>>> 52nSOS -> done
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> [...]
>>>>>> Kind regards and happy new year,
>>>>>> Eike
>>>>>>
>>>>>> -- 
>>>>>> Eike Hinderk Jürrens
>>>>>> 52°North Initiative for Geospatial Open Source Software GmbH
>>>>>> Martin-Luther-King-Weg 24
>>>>>> 48155 Münster, Germany
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>>>>>> Local Court Muenster HRB 10849
>>>>>>
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>>>>> -- 
>>>>> Angelos Tzotsos
>>>>> Remote Sensing Laboratory
>>>>> National Technical University of Athens
>>>>> http://users.ntua.gr/tzotsos
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> -- 
>>>> Angelos Tzotsos
>>>> Remote Sensing Laboratory
>>>> National Technical University of Athens
>>>> http://users.ntua.gr/tzotsos
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