[Live-demo] Starting the build process for OSGeo-Live 9.5

Sat Nov 28 06:23:34 PST 2015

Hi Pieter,

We follow the excellent documentation from Debian and Ubuntu packager 
guides:
https://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/maint-guide/
https://wiki.debian.org/IntroDebianPackaging
http://packaging.ubuntu.com/html/

Best,
Angelos

On 11/28/2015 03:46 PM, Pieter du Plooy wrote:
> Hi Angelos
>
> Although I have experience in creating Arch packages, and source compiling,
> I have no clue in creating debs (although I have done it once or twice in
> the past).
>
> I will be grateful if one could just give me a quick guide in how to create
> a deb.
>
> Pieter
>
> On Sat, Nov 28, 2015 at 3:34 PM, Angelos Tzotsos <gcpp.kalxas at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Welcome Pieter,
>>
>> It would be very interesting if you could help us create packages like:
>> osgeolive-lxde_xyz.deb, osgeolive-kde_xyz.deb etc...
>>
>> Those could be included in our ppa and replace the current shell menu
>> installer.
>> Then we could try an alternate iso creation or a process to install KDE on
>> top of current iso.
>>
>> Thoughts?
>>
>> Best,
>> Angelos
>>
>>
>> On 11/28/2015 03:30 PM, Pieter du Plooy wrote:
>>
>> Hi guys
>>
>> I have been following the development of this project for a couple of years
>> now, and was especially happy to see a 64 bit version, as one of my most
>> used applications is Opticks, as that is only available as 64 bit.
>>
>> I personally would welcome "forks" based on other Desktop environments, as
>> I particularly like KDE
>>
>> I would like to volunteer attempting to test the feasibility of using KDE.
>> (Kubuntu)
>>
>> On a side note, I have been using Gentoo for ages, but have recently
>> switched to Arch Linux, as it gives me greater freedom in what I choose to
>> include, and to compile the apps that I want.  The last few months I have
>> spent using GIS software on Arch, and was really impressed of what can be
>> done!! Most, if not all apps included on the DVD, I can use in Arch.
>>
>> I would like to try (in the new year) to have a GIS specific Arch Distro,
>> to see if I can emulate the Live DVD in Arch.
>>
>> Regards
>>
>> Pieter
>>
>> On Sat, Nov 28, 2015 at 1:44 PM, Angelos Tzotsos <gcpp.kalxas at gmail.com> <gcpp.kalxas at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>
>> On 11/28/2015 01:24 PM, Cameron Shorter wrote:
>>
>> I had the following email sent directly to me.
>> I'm responding publicly to the OSGeo-Live list as I there may be others
>> with suggestions, but have removed the sender's name.
>>
>> On 23/11/2015 6:36 am, XXX wrote:
>>
>> Is it possible to add more desktop managers? Lubuntu has just LXDE. With
>> the current project, when I try to use another manager (GNOME or Cinnamon),
>> lots of programs stop working (and I really don't understand why).
>> This is not really a matter of functionality. It's just that I don't enjoy
>> working in a Windows-like distribution of Linux. I think GNOME is a
>> environment that aims productivity.
>>
>>
>> For OSGeo-Live, we only support one desktop manager, primarily as reduces
>> the amount of testing required in getting the release out. Lubuntu is the
>> desktop we use because it is small and we try to keep the size small enough
>> to fit on a DVD.
>>
>> We'd be happy to see another distribution supported as a branch, but I
>> expect it will be quite a bit of effort. Volunteers are always welcome.
>>
>>
>> During the build procedure we customize the desktop environment in order
>> to add the geospatial menu, the desktop items etc. We do not do this
>> customization on the packaging level: we do not produce derivative deb
>> files of LXDE.
>>
>> Instead we execute:
>> https://github.com/OSGeo/OSGeoLive/blob/master/bin/install_icons_and_menus.sh
>> which customizes the desktop post-install.
>>
>> To achieve what is suggested here would require us to fork debian
>> packaging of other desktop environments (GNOME, KDE etc) and make sure that
>> all applications work fine on those environments.
>>  From my experience, every major GNU/Linux distribution has a dedicated
>> team of maintainers for each desktop environment supported.
>>
>> Short answer: we could do that if we had enough hands to help.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> There's also a recommendation of adding a program called SPRING (http://www.dpi.inpe.br/spring/english/index.html). I underestimated this
>> software for remote sensing image processing. My mistake. I never saw a
>> software transform a scanned map (raster) into vector so fast and so
>> perfectly. And I will not mention the awesome speed of its supervised
>> classification. It's astounding. I never witnessed something alike. Not in
>> free or proprietary software.
>> Sadly! This software will not be supported anymore. I hope someone fork it
>> in some moment.
>>
>>
>> If this project is as good as you suggest, and there is a community behind
>> the project who wish to do the work to bring the project to OSGeo-Live,
>> then we would certainly consider it.
>> The process is described here:http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Live_GIS_Disc#Including_OSGeo-Live_at_your_event
>>
>>
>> +1
>>
>> Best,
>> Angelos
>>
>>
>> And... That's it!
>>
>> Thanks!
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
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