[Live-demo] OSGeo live - new candidate: Halestudio

Angelos Tzotsos gcpp.kalxas at gmail.com
Sat Jul 8 05:01:16 PDT 2017


JRE should not be included in the package, since we already provide it 
at the OS level. That would save several MBs.


On 07/08/2017 03:06 AM, Cameron Shorter wrote:
> Hi Thorsten,
> Great to hear your interest to get involved in OSGeo-Live. Re questions:
> 1. You have missed the deadline to be included on OSGeo-Live 11.0. The 
> following release will be scheduled for next year.
> 2. Yes, we strongly prefer a .deb file for installation. What is 
> involved in adding a project to OSGeo-Live is described here: 
> https://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Live_GIS_Disc#How_to_add_a_project_to_OSGeoLive
> Cheers, Cameron
> On 7/7/17 11:32 pm, Thorsten Reitz wrote:
>> Hi all,
>> in two weeks, many of us will be in Marne la Vallee and we could meet 
>> briefly to pick up the discussion on including hale studio in 
>> OSGeolive again.
>> A couple of questions:
>>   * What is the deadline to include halestudio in stealth mode in the
>>     next release?
>>   * As far as I understood, we need to provide an installation script
>>     or an installer package - I seem to remember you wanted to have a
>>     *.deb?
>>   * The actual software package with JRE (e.g. as DMG) is about 170MB
>>     big. We can't really remove a lot from that - the included sample
>>     data is only about 1MB.
>> All the best,
>> Thorsten
>> Am 16.05.2017 um 16:25 schrieb Dirk Frigne:
>>> Hi Cameron,
>>> Stealth mode in the first release should be great!
>>> Halestudio is used in several EU INSPIRE projects, and we plan to setup
>>> a talk and a topic talk about OSGeo live on FOSS4G Paris.
>>> There will be a specific topic talk for the INSPIRE community.
>>> If we could disclose there the "stealth mode' we could motivate the
>>> community to give feedabck.
>>> The other point I want to address is to reach out to the dataproviders,
>>> to become involved with the OSGeolive project.
>>> As we descussed last month, we should try to find more volunteers to
>>> support the project and become involved in some testing. By addressing
>>> the product owners *and* the dataproviders, able to showcase their data
>>> with OSGeo tools, I hope to strengthen the community.
>>> All the best,
>>> Dirk
>>> On 2017-05-16 14:26, Cameron Shorter wrote:
>>>> Hi Dirk,
>>>> Looking through your responses, Halestudio looks to be a very strong
>>>> candidate for including on OSGeo-Live.
>>>> Whether we have time to get it included in time for OSGeo-Live 11.0 is
>>>> questionable.
>>>> For prior projects we have often taken two releases to onboard the
>>>> project to OSGeo-Live. Firstly we include the project in stealth mode.
>>>> (It is installed, but the docs are not linked into the main docs, 
>>>> so new
>>>> users don't accidentally use it. This gives us more time to do QA.
>>>> I'll be interested to hear thoughts from other OSGeo-Live folks. I'd
>>>> especially like to hear from anyone who has experience with Halestudio
>>>> to hear their thoughts.
>>>> Warm regards, Cameron
>>>> On 15/5/17 10:44 pm, Dirk Frigne wrote:
>>>>> Hello,
>>>>> Hereby we would like to ask if hale studio is appropriate to be 
>>>>> included
>>>>> on the next OSGeoLive release.
>>>>> Below you can find the answers to the application questions as 
>>>>> described
>>>>> on the wiki page.
>>>>> Kind regards,
>>>>> Please describe your application:
>>>>>       What is its name? hale studio
>>>>>       What is the home page URL?
>>>>> https://www.wetransform.to/products/halestudio/
>>>>>       Which OSI-approved Open Source License is used? GNU Lesser 
>>>>> General
>>>>> Public Licence (LGPL) v3.0
>>>>>       What does the application do and how does it add value to the
>>>>> Geospatial stack of software? hale studio enables you to transform 
>>>>> and
>>>>> harmonise spatial data, with a focus on highly complex data sets. 
>>>>> Set up
>>>>> reporting, analysis and data publishing workflows easily by defining
>>>>> schema mappings. Furthermore, hale studio documents the data
>>>>> transformation process and its impact on data quality.
>>>>>       Does the application make use of OGC standards? Which 
>>>>> versions of
>>>>> the standards? Client or server? You may wish to add comments 
>>>>> about how
>>>>> standards are used.
>>>>>           Read and write GML (2.1.2 to 3.3)
>>>>>           WFS client (1.1, 2.0, 2.0.2), including support for WFS
>>>>> Transactions
>>>>>           WMS client (1.1.0, 1.1.1, 1.3.0)
>>>>>           Simple Features SQL
>>>>>           JSON (RFC 7159, ECMA-404)
>>>>>           GeoJSON (IETF RFC 7946)
>>>>>       What language is it written in? Java, Groovy
>>>>>       Which version of the application should be included in the next
>>>>> OSGeo-Live release? 3.3.0
>>>>> Stability is very important to us on OSGeo-Live. If a new user 
>>>>> finds a
>>>>> bug in one application, it will tarnish the reputation of all other
>>>>> OSGeo-Live applications as well. (We pay most attention to the 
>>>>> following
>>>>> answers):
>>>>>       If risk adverse organisations have deployed your application 
>>>>> into
>>>>> production, it would imply that these organisations have verified the
>>>>> stability of your software. Has the application been rolled out to
>>>>> production into risk (ideally risk adverse) organisations? Please
>>>>> mention some of these organisations
>>>>>           State of Hamburg (Germany)
>>>>>           State of Bavaria (Germany)
>>>>>           State of Rhineland-Palatinate (Germany)
>>>>>           Institute of Forest Management of Baden-Württemberg 
>>>>> (Germany)
>>>>>           Armed Forces (Germany)
>>>>>           SMWA Sachsen (Germany)
>>>>>           GDI Südhessen (96 districts and municipalities in Germany)
>>>>>           Prisma Solutions (Austria)
>>>>>           IGP (Portugal)
>>>>>           IRCELINE (Belgium)
>>>>>           HL Consulting (Belgium)
>>>>>           Statkart (Norway)
>>>>>           European Environmental Agency (Denmark)
>>>>> Most of these organisations sponsor continued development of the
>>>>> software through support contracts.
>>>>>       Open HUB provides metrics to help assess the health of a 
>>>>> project.
>>>>> E.g.:http://adhoc.osgeo.osuosl.org/livedvd/docs/en/metrics.html  
>>>>> Could
>>>>> you please ensure that your project is registered with Open HUB, and
>>>>> Open HUB has been updated to reference the correct code repository(s)
>>>>> for your project. What is the Open HUB URL for your project?
>>>>> https://www.openhub.net/p/halestudio
>>>>>       What is the size of the user community? You can often answer 
>>>>> this by
>>>>> mentioning downloads, or describing a healthy, busy email list?
>>>>>           Downloads per year: 4.000 to 5.000
>>>>>           Posts on the forum per year: 80 to 100
>>>>>       What is the size of your developer community?
>>>>>           At wetransform: 3 FTE
>>>>>           Outside wetransform: 2-3 major contributions per year, e.g.
>>>>> SQLite reader, Geoserver app-schema integration
>>>>>       Do you have a bug free, stable release?
>>>>>           There are stable releases for production usage available 
>>>>> since
>>>>> release 2.0.1 (2010). A release history is available through GitHub:
>>>>> https://github.com/halestudio/hale/releases
>>>>>           The latest release is 3.2.0, with version 3.3.0 being 
>>>>> released
>>>>> this week (19.05.2017)
>>>>>       Please discuss the level of testing that your project has gone
>>>>> through.
>>>>>           hale studio's alignment creation and transformation 
>>>>> capabilities
>>>>> have been thoroughly tested in a multitude of data transformation
>>>>> projects both by its developers as well as its open source user
>>>>> community.
>>>>>           Furthermore, continuous integration tests are performed 
>>>>> by our
>>>>> build infrastructure athttps://builds.wetransform.to  on every 
>>>>> commit to
>>>>> the master branch. The integration test suite is continuously 
>>>>> extended
>>>>> with every new feature or problem report. We publish detailed test
>>>>> reports using Allure.
>>>>>           Every release candidate of hale studio undergoes additional
>>>>> manual/explorative testing.
>>>>>       How long has the project has had mature code?
>>>>>           Version 1.0 of hale studio was released in December 
>>>>> 2009. Since
>>>>> the release of version 2.0.1 in 2010, the code base can be regarded
>>>>> mature.
>>>>>       OSGeo-Live is targeted at applications that people can use 
>>>>> rather
>>>>> than libraries. Does the application have a user interface 
>>>>> (possibly a
>>>>> command line interface) that a user can interact with? (We do make an
>>>>> exception for Incubated OSGeo Libraries, and will include Project
>>>>> Overviews for these libraries, even if they don't have a user 
>>>>> interface.)
>>>>>           hale studio has a graphical user interface to create
>>>>> transformation projects and perform data transformations.
>>>>>       With around 50 applications installed on OSGeo-Live, us core
>>>>> packagers do not have the time to liaise with every single project 
>>>>> email
>>>>> list for each OSGeo-Live release. So we require a volunteer (or 
>>>>> two) to
>>>>> take responsibility for liaising between OSGeo-Live and the project's
>>>>> communities. This volunteer will be responsible for ensuring the 
>>>>> install
>>>>> scripts and English documentation are updated by someone for each
>>>>> OSGeo-Live release. Also test that the installed application and
>>>>> Quickstart documentation works as expected on release candidate 
>>>>> releases
>>>>> of OSGeo-Live. Who will act as the project's liaison person?
>>>>>           Simon Templer (st at wetransform.to)
>>>>>           Florian Esser (fe at wetransform.to) as backup
>>>>>       OSGeo-Live is Ubuntu Linux based. Our installation 
>>>>> preference is:
>>>>>           1. Install from UbuntuGIS or DebianGIS
>>>>>           2. Install .deb files from a PPA
>>>>>           3. Write a custom install script
>>>>> Can you please discuss how your application will be installed? A 
>>>>> custom
>>>>> installation script will be used to extract the application 
>>>>> archive at
>>>>> the appropriate location and create an application launcher.
>>>>>       OSGeo-Live is memory and disk constrained. Can the 
>>>>> application run
>>>>> in 512 Meg of RAM?
>>>>>           Yes, though we recommend 1 GB or more. Very large/complex
>>>>> transformation projects will benefit from 2GB+.
>>>>>       How much disk space will be required to install the 
>>>>> application and
>>>>> a suitable example application?
>>>>>           ~380 MiB including example data sets and Java runtime
>>>>>       We aim to reduce disk space by having all applications make 
>>>>> use of a
>>>>> common dataset. We encourage applications to make use of the example
>>>>> datasets already installed:
>>>>> http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Live_GIS_Add_Project#Example_Datasets  If
>>>>> another dataset would be more appropriate, please discuss here. Is it
>>>>> appropriate, to remove existing demo datasets which may already be
>>>>> included in the standard release.
>>>>>           In the standard release, some demo datasets are 
>>>>> included. These
>>>>> may be removed for the installation on the OSGeo Live DVD. The 
>>>>> default
>>>>> ‘Natural Earth’ dataset could be used to illustrate the potential 
>>>>> of the
>>>>> application as an ETL tool with respect to INSPIRE and complex 
>>>>> schemas.
>>>>> However, this would be better illustrated by providing a more
>>>>> specialized INSPIRE dataset.
>>>>>       Each OSGeo-Live application requires a Project Overview 
>>>>> available
>>>>> under a CC By and a Quickstart available under a CC By-SA license. 
>>>>> (You
>>>>> may release under a second license as well). Will you produce this?
>>>>>           Yes. Both the Project Overview and Quickstart will be 
>>>>> created
>>>>> based on the existing project documentation, help and demos.
>>>>>       In past releases, we have included Windows and Mac 
>>>>> installers for
>>>>> some applications. It is likely we won't have space for these in 
>>>>> future
>>>>> releases. However, if there is room, would you be wishing to include
>>>>> Windows and/or Mac installers?
>>>>>           Both Windows and Mac installers exist for the project.
>> -- 
>> Thorsten Reitz
>> Founder
>> E-Mail: tr at wetransform.to
>> Web: www.wetransform.to
>> Phone: +49 179 59 08 203
>> wetransform GmbH
>> Fraunhoferstr. 5
>> 64283 Darmstadt
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Angelos Tzotsos, PhD
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