[Live-demo] OSGeo live - new candidate: Halestudio

Cameron Shorter cameron.shorter at gmail.com
Fri Jul 7 17:06:37 PDT 2017

Hi Thorsten,

Great to hear your interest to get involved in OSGeo-Live. Re questions:

1. You have missed the deadline to be included on OSGeo-Live 11.0. The 
following release will be scheduled for next year.

2. Yes, we strongly prefer a .deb file for installation. What is 
involved in adding a project to OSGeo-Live is described here: 

Cheers, Cameron

On 7/7/17 11:32 pm, Thorsten Reitz wrote:
> Hi all,
> in two weeks, many of us will be in Marne la Vallee and we could meet 
> briefly to pick up the discussion on including hale studio in 
> OSGeolive again.
> A couple of questions:
>   * What is the deadline to include halestudio in stealth mode in the
>     next release?
>   * As far as I understood, we need to provide an installation script
>     or an installer package - I seem to remember you wanted to have a
>     *.deb?
>   * The actual software package with JRE (e.g. as DMG) is about 170MB
>     big. We can't really remove a lot from that - the included sample
>     data is only about 1MB.
> All the best,
> Thorsten
> Am 16.05.2017 um 16:25 schrieb Dirk Frigne:
>> Hi Cameron,
>> Stealth mode in the first release should be great!
>> Halestudio is used in several EU INSPIRE projects, and we plan to setup
>> a talk and a topic talk about OSGeo live on FOSS4G Paris.
>> There will be a specific topic talk for the INSPIRE community.
>> If we could disclose there the "stealth mode' we could motivate the
>> community to give feedabck.
>> The other point I want to address is to reach out to the dataproviders,
>> to become involved with the OSGeolive project.
>> As we descussed last month, we should try to find more volunteers to
>> support the project and become involved in some testing. By addressing
>> the product owners *and* the dataproviders, able to showcase their data
>> with OSGeo tools, I hope to strengthen the community.
>> All the best,
>> Dirk
>> On 2017-05-16 14:26, Cameron Shorter wrote:
>>> Hi Dirk,
>>> Looking through your responses, Halestudio looks to be a very strong
>>> candidate for including on OSGeo-Live.
>>> Whether we have time to get it included in time for OSGeo-Live 11.0 is
>>> questionable.
>>> For prior projects we have often taken two releases to onboard the
>>> project to OSGeo-Live. Firstly we include the project in stealth mode.
>>> (It is installed, but the docs are not linked into the main docs, so new
>>> users don't accidentally use it. This gives us more time to do QA.
>>> I'll be interested to hear thoughts from other OSGeo-Live folks. I'd
>>> especially like to hear from anyone who has experience with Halestudio
>>> to hear their thoughts.
>>> Warm regards, Cameron
>>> On 15/5/17 10:44 pm, Dirk Frigne wrote:
>>>> Hello,
>>>> Hereby we would like to ask if hale studio is appropriate to be included
>>>> on the next OSGeoLive release.
>>>> Below you can find the answers to the application questions as described
>>>> on the wiki page.
>>>> Kind regards,
>>>> Please describe your application:
>>>>       What is its name? hale studio
>>>>       What is the home page URL?
>>>> https://www.wetransform.to/products/halestudio/
>>>>       Which OSI-approved Open Source License is used? GNU Lesser General
>>>> Public Licence (LGPL) v3.0
>>>>       What does the application do and how does it add value to the
>>>> Geospatial stack of software? hale studio enables you to transform and
>>>> harmonise spatial data, with a focus on highly complex data sets. Set up
>>>> reporting, analysis and data publishing workflows easily by defining
>>>> schema mappings. Furthermore, hale studio documents the data
>>>> transformation process and its impact on data quality.
>>>>       Does the application make use of OGC standards? Which versions of
>>>> the standards? Client or server? You may wish to add comments about how
>>>> standards are used.
>>>>           Read and write GML (2.1.2 to 3.3)
>>>>           WFS client (1.1, 2.0, 2.0.2), including support for WFS
>>>> Transactions
>>>>           WMS client (1.1.0, 1.1.1, 1.3.0)
>>>>           Simple Features SQL
>>>>           JSON (RFC 7159, ECMA-404)
>>>>           GeoJSON (IETF RFC 7946)
>>>>       What language is it written in? Java, Groovy
>>>>       Which version of the application should be included in the next
>>>> OSGeo-Live release? 3.3.0
>>>> Stability is very important to us on OSGeo-Live. If a new user finds a
>>>> bug in one application, it will tarnish the reputation of all other
>>>> OSGeo-Live applications as well. (We pay most attention to the following
>>>> answers):
>>>>       If risk adverse organisations have deployed your application into
>>>> production, it would imply that these organisations have verified the
>>>> stability of your software. Has the application been rolled out to
>>>> production into risk (ideally risk adverse) organisations? Please
>>>> mention some of these organisations
>>>>           State of Hamburg (Germany)
>>>>           State of Bavaria (Germany)
>>>>           State of Rhineland-Palatinate (Germany)
>>>>           Institute of Forest Management of Baden-Württemberg (Germany)
>>>>           Armed Forces (Germany)
>>>>           SMWA Sachsen (Germany)
>>>>           GDI Südhessen (96 districts and municipalities in Germany)
>>>>           Prisma Solutions (Austria)
>>>>           IGP (Portugal)
>>>>           IRCELINE (Belgium)
>>>>           HL Consulting (Belgium)
>>>>           Statkart (Norway)
>>>>           European Environmental Agency (Denmark)
>>>> Most of these organisations sponsor continued development of the
>>>> software through support contracts.
>>>>       Open HUB provides metrics to help assess the health of a project.
>>>> E.g.:http://adhoc.osgeo.osuosl.org/livedvd/docs/en/metrics.html  Could
>>>> you please ensure that your project is registered with Open HUB, and
>>>> Open HUB has been updated to reference the correct code repository(s)
>>>> for your project. What is the Open HUB URL for your project?
>>>> https://www.openhub.net/p/halestudio
>>>>       What is the size of the user community? You can often answer this by
>>>> mentioning downloads, or describing a healthy, busy email list?
>>>>           Downloads per year: 4.000 to 5.000
>>>>           Posts on the forum per year: 80 to 100
>>>>       What is the size of your developer community?
>>>>           At wetransform: 3 FTE
>>>>           Outside wetransform: 2-3 major contributions per year, e.g.
>>>> SQLite reader, Geoserver app-schema integration
>>>>       Do you have a bug free, stable release?
>>>>           There are stable releases for production usage available since
>>>> release 2.0.1 (2010). A release history is available through GitHub:
>>>> https://github.com/halestudio/hale/releases
>>>>           The latest release is 3.2.0, with version 3.3.0 being released
>>>> this week (19.05.2017)
>>>>       Please discuss the level of testing that your project has gone
>>>> through.
>>>>           hale studio's alignment creation and transformation capabilities
>>>> have been thoroughly tested in a multitude of data transformation
>>>> projects both by its developers as well as its open source user
>>>> community.
>>>>           Furthermore, continuous integration tests are performed by our
>>>> build infrastructure athttps://builds.wetransform.to  on every commit to
>>>> the master branch. The integration test suite is continuously extended
>>>> with every new feature or problem report. We publish detailed test
>>>> reports using Allure.
>>>>           Every release candidate of hale studio undergoes additional
>>>> manual/explorative testing.
>>>>       How long has the project has had mature code?
>>>>           Version 1.0 of hale studio was released in December 2009. Since
>>>> the release of version 2.0.1 in 2010, the code base can be regarded
>>>> mature.
>>>>       OSGeo-Live is targeted at applications that people can use rather
>>>> than libraries. Does the application have a user interface (possibly a
>>>> command line interface) that a user can interact with? (We do make an
>>>> exception for Incubated OSGeo Libraries, and will include Project
>>>> Overviews for these libraries, even if they don't have a user interface.)
>>>>           hale studio has a graphical user interface to create
>>>> transformation projects and perform data transformations.
>>>>       With around 50 applications installed on OSGeo-Live, us core
>>>> packagers do not have the time to liaise with every single project email
>>>> list for each OSGeo-Live release. So we require a volunteer (or two) to
>>>> take responsibility for liaising between OSGeo-Live and the project's
>>>> communities. This volunteer will be responsible for ensuring the install
>>>> scripts and English documentation are updated by someone for each
>>>> OSGeo-Live release. Also test that the installed application and
>>>> Quickstart documentation works as expected on release candidate releases
>>>> of OSGeo-Live. Who will act as the project's liaison person?
>>>>           Simon Templer (st at wetransform.to)
>>>>           Florian Esser (fe at wetransform.to) as backup
>>>>       OSGeo-Live is Ubuntu Linux based. Our installation preference is:
>>>>           1. Install from UbuntuGIS or DebianGIS
>>>>           2. Install .deb files from a PPA
>>>>           3. Write a custom install script
>>>> Can you please discuss how your application will be installed? A custom
>>>> installation script will be used to extract the application archive at
>>>> the appropriate location and create an application launcher.
>>>>       OSGeo-Live is memory and disk constrained. Can the application run
>>>> in 512 Meg of RAM?
>>>>           Yes, though we recommend 1 GB or more. Very large/complex
>>>> transformation projects will benefit from 2GB+.
>>>>       How much disk space will be required to install the application and
>>>> a suitable example application?
>>>>           ~380 MiB including example data sets and Java runtime
>>>>       We aim to reduce disk space by having all applications make use of a
>>>> common dataset. We encourage applications to make use of the example
>>>> datasets already installed:
>>>> http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Live_GIS_Add_Project#Example_Datasets  If
>>>> another dataset would be more appropriate, please discuss here. Is it
>>>> appropriate, to remove existing demo datasets which may already be
>>>> included in the standard release.
>>>>           In the standard release, some demo datasets are included. These
>>>> may be removed for the installation on the OSGeo Live DVD. The default
>>>> ‘Natural Earth’ dataset could be used to illustrate the potential of the
>>>> application as an ETL tool with respect to INSPIRE and complex schemas.
>>>> However, this would be better illustrated by providing a more
>>>> specialized INSPIRE dataset.
>>>>       Each OSGeo-Live application requires a Project Overview available
>>>> under a CC By and a Quickstart available under a CC By-SA license. (You
>>>> may release under a second license as well). Will you produce this?
>>>>           Yes. Both the Project Overview and Quickstart will be created
>>>> based on the existing project documentation, help and demos.
>>>>       In past releases, we have included Windows and Mac installers for
>>>> some applications. It is likely we won't have space for these in future
>>>> releases. However, if there is room, would you be wishing to include
>>>> Windows and/or Mac installers?
>>>>           Both Windows and Mac installers exist for the project.
> -- 
> Thorsten Reitz
> Founder
> E-Mail: tr at wetransform.to
> Web: www.wetransform.to
> Phone: +49 179 59 08 203
> wetransform GmbH
> Fraunhoferstr. 5
> 64283 Darmstadt

Cameron Shorter
M +61 419 142 254

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