[Live-demo] Retiring mapnik from OSGeo-Live?
Cameron Shorter
cameron.shorter at gmail.com
Fri May 12 01:50:34 PDT 2017
I'm taking the following conversation public - with Dane's permission.
As per below, Dane is suggesting there are not volunteers available to
manage Mapnik's presence on OSGeo-Live, and as such is suggesting it is
a candidate for retiring.
From the Project Overview [1]
"Mapnik is a toolkit for rendering beautiful maps, with clean, soft
feature edges provided by quality anti-aliasing graphics, intelligent
label placement, and scalable, SVG symbolisation. Most famously, mapnik
is used to render the OpenStreetMap main map layers."
Metrics for the project look reasonably healthy. [2]
The Quickstart could do with some cleaning up.
Am I right in understanding that Mapnik would be considered a "library"
and as we are refocusing on user applications, Mapnik might be a
candidate for retiring on that basis as well?
Comments welcomed.
[1] https://live.osgeo.org/en/overview/mapnik_overview.html
[2] https://live.osgeo.org/en/metrics.html
On 12/5/17 10:49 am, Dane Springmeyer wrote:
> On 11/5/17 9:47 am, Dane Springmeyer wrote:
>> Cameron,
>>
>> Yes, there are a few of us working on Mapnik still (me included). But
>> we don't have time to work on packaging or distributions.
>>
>> Because I am the individual that added Mapnik to osgeo-live
>> originally I would prefer you remove it.
>>
>> Dane
>>
>>> On May 10, 2017, at 3:19 PM, Cameron Shorter
>>> <cameron.shorter at gmail.com <mailto:cameron.shorter at gmail.com>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi Dane,
>>>
>>> Thanks for your help with mapnik to date.
>>>
>>> What is your assessment of the current community behind mapnik? Are
>>> there people working on it? If so, who would you recommend we reach
>>> out to?
>>>
>>> Thanks Cameron
>>>
>>>
>>> On 11/5/17 7:34 am, Astrid Emde wrote:
>>>> Hi Dane,
>>>>
>>>> thanks for your answer.
>>>>
>>>> We try to find another person to look after Mapnik. Thanks a lot
>>>> for your help with OSGeo-Live.
>>>>
>>>> Astrid
>>>>
>>>> On Wed, May 10, 2017 at 11:09 PM, Dane Springmeyer
>>>> <blake at hailmail.net <mailto:blake at hailmail.net>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Hi Astrid,
>>>>
>>>> I am no longer active with the osgeo-love project. Can you
>>>> please offer up Mapnik maintenance to a different person
>>>> involved with osgeo-live? If you cannot find a maintainer then
>>>> you have my permission to remove mapnik from the distribution.
>>>>
>>>> Dane
>>>>
>>>> > On May 10, 2017, at 1:21 PM, astroidex at gmail.com
>>>> <mailto:astroidex at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> >
>>>> > Hi Dane,
>>>> >
>>>> > we have started our build cycle for OSGeo-Live 11.0, due to
>>>> be released at the end of July 2017, in time for FOSS4G 2017 in
>>>> August.
>>>> >
>>>> > We are interested to know which version of mapnik should be
>>>> installed on OSGeo-Live 11.0?
>>>> >
>>>> > Version 3.0.11 was installed on OSGeo-Live 10.5.
>>>> >
>>>> > Note that our installer feature freeze is 5. June 2017!
>>>> >
>>>> > Please give us feedback and get involved or provide a
>>>> different person as contact person, which will update your project.
>>>> >
>>>> > We are asking all OSGeo-Live projects to let us know:
>>>> > 1. What versions of projects should be on OSGeo-Live?
>>>> > 2. Are there any new projects which should be on OSGeo-Live?
>>>> > 3. Are there any projects which should be dropped from
>>>> OSGeo-Live?
>>>> >
>>>> > Do you think we should drop mapnik from OSGeo-Live?
>>>> >
>>>> > As per last announcement [1], with our next OSGeo-Live
>>>> release we intend to focus on quality, and as such will be
>>>> asking each project:
>>>> > 1. To help install the latest stable version of the software.
>>>> > 2. To verify Project Overview and Quickstarts are both up to
>>>> date and in line with our documentation standards.
>>>> >
>>>> > You can see results of our first pass review in our status
>>>> spreadsheet [2], column T "11.0 comment", and column U "10.0
>>>> Doc Review".
>>>> >
>>>> > [1]
>>>> https://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Live_GIS_Disc_Press_Release_75
>>>> <https://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Live_GIS_Disc_Press_Release_75>
>>>> >
>>>> > [2]
>>>> https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1Q5BaEgQtgw4O1bXyeWMlM8XtAOhUgcjZ7Y2O0FZc2H0/edit?hl=en_GB#gid=2014800150
>>>> <https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1Q5BaEgQtgw4O1bXyeWMlM8XtAOhUgcjZ7Y2O0FZc2H0/edit?hl=en_GB#gid=2014800150>
>>>> >
>>>> > Key Milestones
>>>> > -------------------
>>>> > 15-May-2017 Decide versions of applications to be installed
>>>> on OSGeo-Live
>>>> > 22-May-2017 Draft installers for new applications complete
>>>> > 5-Jun-2017 OSGeo-Live Feature Freeze (final application
>>>> versions installed)
>>>> > 19-Jun-2017 OSGeo-Live delivered to UAT (final application
>>>> versions installed - Beta stage)
>>>> > 24-Jul-2017 OSGeo-Live Final ISO
>>>> > 14-Aug-2017 FOSS4G 2017 Boston
>>>> >
>>>> > ... full schedule
>>>> http://spreadsheets.google.com/ccc?key=0Al9zh8DjmU_RdE1SYUN3YWJ2N1NpSUczbW9IRWZNclE&hl=en_GB
>>>> <http://spreadsheets.google.com/ccc?key=0Al9zh8DjmU_RdE1SYUN3YWJ2N1NpSUczbW9IRWZNclE&hl=en_GB>
>>>> >
>>>> > We are waiting for your response concerning your project
>>>> mapnik. Any questions, please ask via the OSGeo-Live mailing
>>>> list (live-demo at lists.osgeo.org
>>>> <mailto:live-demo at lists.osgeo.org>) or directly.
>>>> >
>>>> > Warm regards,
>>>> >
>>>> > Astrid
>>>> > --
>>>> > Astrid Emde
>>>> > Charter Member
>>>> > Open Source Geospatial Foundation
>>>> > http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/User:Astrid_Emde
>>>> <http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/User:Astrid_Emde>
>>>> >
>>>>
--
Cameron Shorter
M +61 419 142 254
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