[OSGeoLive] Some questions related translation

Kari Salovaara kari.salovaara at pp1.inet.fi
Wed Aug 22 10:20:40 PDT 2018


Hi,

thanks Nicolas, quick reply.

For the issue 1.:
Original:
> `Download <http://live.osgeo.org/en/download.html>`_ osgeolive or 
> osgeolive-mini to your computer's hard drive.
the link is probably then <http://live.osgeo.org/fi/download.html> (if 
we guess that language is Finnish => fi (It could have been some other 
also like se ;) )

I looked quickly [1][2] but I think it takes way too much time at the 
moment to get involved it that now.

For translato,r knowledge of process is important:
Source -> Transifex, are version in use texts to translated updated in 
Transifex and when new version replaces previous version?
Translated/translation updates -> how often website will be updated,  
will OSGeoLive be updated even version number stays the same?

So could Vicky or Angelos, please update Finnish language into use? Please.

Cheers, Kari
PS. Now I continue to translate.




Nicolas Roelandt kirjoitti 22.8.2018 klo 19:31:
> Hi Kari,
>
> First, thanks for helping us translate OSGeoLive !
>
> I'll try to answer your questions but we will probably need to discuss 
> it with the team, so feel free to join us, your feedback will be very 
> important.
>
> 1. Can you provide an example of that ? It didn't bring to my 
> attention. Usually, I tend to keep the link as it is so I'm sure it'll 
> be working. Some translators adapted the urls some don't, there is no 
> guideline on that subject.
> In the case where there is a translated page, I think the user will be 
> able to get there by himself. It is less maintenance in our side and 
> if the project doesn't have translated pages, the link will send to 
> the English version anyway.
>
> 2. You can possibly make your local documentation, there is some 
> guidelines here: [1] In the past we didn't had Finnish translations so 
> you will need to add it to the configuration. See section Adding / 
> removing a language
>  For the moment, the doc is build separably then introduced in the 
> liveDVD at its building. Unfortunately, I'm not the best person  to 
> explain it to you. Please see with Vicky Vergara or Angelos for that 
> matter.
>
> 3. Regarding the licences, the projects included in OSGeoLive keeps 
> their licence. But the documentation for those projects produced for 
> OSGeoLive (aka overviews, quickstarts and notebooks) are required to 
> be in CC BY SA 3.0
> It was not discussed to change the licence yet but as said before, 
> feel free to propose it for discussion.
>
> 4. Short answer is no. We don't have the workforce to do it for the 
> moment, but it can be a great quality improvement if we find the 
> volunteers to do it. Can you please fill an issue in our track 
> instance [2] ?
> I, personally, had troubles with very long strings and paragraphs, so 
> guidelines and a taskforce to enforce it might help.
>
> 5. The meeting are logs in [3], so you can check it easily. You can 
> see the actual state of the documentation here: 
> https://cvvergara.github.io/OSGeoLive/en/index.html
> To conclude this, this is my personal opinion and we can discuss it, 
> feel free to join us at our weekly meeting every monday at 20:00 UTC
> Plus, if it is a real issue, we have a track instance for issues 
> related to OSGeoLive [2]
>
> I hope this answers some of your question.
>
> Best regards,
>
> Nicolas Roelandt
> OSGeoLive PSC
>
> [1] https://trac.osgeo.org/osgeolive/wiki/building_the_docs
> [2] https://trac.osgeo.org/osgeolive/
> [3] http://irclogs.geoapt.com/osgeolive/
>
>
> Le mar. 21 août 2018 à 15:00, Kari Salovaara 
> <kari.salovaara at pp1.inet.fi <mailto:kari.salovaara at pp1.inet.fi>> a écrit :
>
>     Hi folks,
>
>     1. In text (2 be translated) there is also internal links and
>     they, of
>     course, are language based. As they are at the moment non-existent,
>     these links be as scientifically best guess?
>     2. And how and when they could be tested if no new languages are
>     taken
>     into package as announced earlier? And where are the guidelines if I
>     want to make a version of the DVD/USB where national translation are
>     included?
>     3. Will the licensies of all projects and their documentation be
>     based
>     on CC 3.0 (from pre-historical time) or will there be a great
>     evoluation
>     process in near future?
>     4. Is there any quality assurance for the original texts? Some
>     strings
>     are more or less in some local dialect which are really painful to
>     translate.
>     5. What was the output of OSGeoLive PSC from yesterday and what is
>     the
>     time line now (looked the doc but no changes)
>
>     Cheers, Kari
>
>     PS. Should OSGeoLive name to be changed to OSGeoLike or OSGeoLove?
>
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>
> -- 
> Bien cordialement,
>
> Nicolas Roelandt
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