[OSGeoLive] Some questions related translation

Wed Aug 22 11:14:24 PDT 2018

Hi Kari,

I misunderstood your question, thanks for giving us more precision.

For the first point, Transifex  automatically checks sources 2 twice by
day, see [1]
It looks directly for .po files who needs to be manually generated. We plan
to work on automated generation when merging but with the incoming release
it is currently stopped.

For the website, we planned to update it more often than the yearly release
of the livedvd but nothing have been decided yet.
Docs will probably gets minor version numbering between livedvd major
version.

For the Finnish translations, first thanks for your work. As not all
overviews are translated, it won't be on the livedvd.
But I think we can integrate into a work webpages like [2] until it does
and we integrate it to the main website.
For the moment, I need to learn how to do it but I will try to get the same
sort of content with all languages.

Best regards,

Nicolas

[1]
https://docs.transifex.com/projects/updating-content/#automatically-updating-source-files
[2] https://cvvergara.github.io/OSGeoLive/en/index.html

Le mer. 22 août 2018 à 19:20, Kari Salovaara <kari.salovaara at pp1.inet.fi> a
écrit :

> Hi,
>
> thanks Nicolas, quick reply.
>
> For the issue 1.:
> Original:
>
> `Download <http://live.osgeo.org/en/download.html>
> <http://live.osgeo.org/en/download.html>`_ osgeolive or osgeolive-mini to
> your computer's hard drive.
>
> the link is probably then <http://live.osgeo.org/fi/download.html>
> <http://live.osgeo.org/fi/download.html> (if we guess that language is
> Finnish => fi (It could have been some other also like se ;) )
>
> I looked quickly [1][2] but I think it takes way too much time at the
> moment to get involved it that now.
>
> For translato,r knowledge of process is important:
> Source -> Transifex, are version in use texts to translated updated in
> Transifex and when new version replaces previous version?
> Translated/translation updates -> how often website will be updated,  will
> OSGeoLive be updated even version number stays the same?
>
> So could Vicky or Angelos, please update Finnish language into use? Please.
>
> Cheers, Kari
> PS. Now I continue to translate.
>
>
>
>
> Nicolas Roelandt kirjoitti 22.8.2018 klo 19:31:
>
> Hi Kari,
>
> First, thanks for helping us translate OSGeoLive !
>
> I'll try to answer your questions but we will probably need to discuss it
> with the team, so feel free to join us, your feedback will be very
> important.
>
> 1. Can you provide an example of that ? It didn't bring to my attention.
> Usually, I tend to keep the link as it is so I'm sure it'll be working.
> Some translators adapted the urls some don't, there is no guideline on that
> subject.
> In the case where there is a translated page, I think the user will be
> able to get there by himself. It is less maintenance in our side and if the
> project doesn't have translated pages, the link will send to the English
> version anyway.
>
> 2. You can possibly make your local documentation, there is some
> guidelines here: [1] In the past we didn't had Finnish translations so you
> will need to add it to the configuration. See section  Adding / removing
> a language
>  For the moment, the doc is build separably then introduced in the liveDVD
> at its building. Unfortunately, I'm not the best person  to explain it to
> you. Please see with Vicky Vergara or Angelos for that matter.
>
> 3. Regarding the licences, the projects included in OSGeoLive keeps their
> licence. But the documentation for those projects produced for OSGeoLive
> (aka overviews, quickstarts and notebooks) are required to be in CC BY SA
> 3.0
> It was not discussed to change the licence yet but as said before, feel
> free to propose it for discussion.
>
> 4. Short answer is no. We don't have the workforce to do it for the
> moment, but it can be a great quality improvement if we find the volunteers
> to do it. Can you please fill an issue in our track instance [2] ?
> I, personally, had troubles with very long strings and paragraphs, so
> guidelines and a taskforce to enforce it might help.
>
> 5. The meeting are logs in [3], so you can check it easily. You can see
> the actual state of the documentation here:
> https://cvvergara.github.io/OSGeoLive/en/index.html
>
> To conclude this, this is my personal opinion and we can discuss it, feel
> free to join us at our weekly meeting every monday at 20:00 UTC
> Plus, if it is a real issue, we have a track instance for issues related
> to OSGeoLive [2]
>
> I hope this answers some of your question.
>
> Best regards,
>
> Nicolas Roelandt
> OSGeoLive PSC
>
> [1] https://trac.osgeo.org/osgeolive/wiki/building_the_docs
> [2] https://trac.osgeo.org/osgeolive/
> [3] http://irclogs.geoapt.com/osgeolive/
>
>
> Le mar. 21 août 2018 à 15:00, Kari Salovaara <kari.salovaara at pp1.inet.fi>
> a écrit :
>
>> Hi folks,
>>
>> 1. In text (2 be translated) there is also internal links and they, of
>> course, are language based. As they are at the moment non-existent,
>> these links be as scientifically best guess?
>> 2. And how and when they could be tested if no new languages are taken
>> into package as announced earlier? And where are the guidelines if I
>> want to make a version of the DVD/USB where national translation are
>> included?
>> 3. Will the licensies of all projects and their documentation be based
>> on CC 3.0 (from pre-historical time) or will there be a great evoluation
>> process in near future?
>> 4. Is there any quality assurance for the original texts? Some strings
>> are more or less in some local dialect which are really painful to
>> translate.
>> 5. What was the output of OSGeoLive PSC from yesterday and what is the
>> time line now (looked the doc but no changes)
>>
>> Cheers, Kari
>>
>> PS. Should OSGeoLive name to be changed to OSGeoLike or OSGeoLove?
>>
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>
>
> --
> Bien cordialement,
>
> Nicolas Roelandt
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>
>

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