[OSGeoLive] machine translations

Mon Jul 30 21:39:51 PDT 2018

Hi,

If sponsor has a too strong meaning, we can add a "Thanks" or "Special
Thanks" section into the sponsor page (I'm not in favour of a another page).

So we can also thanks Transifex and Github that let's us use their
infrastructure for doing OpenSource stuff.

so here is my proposal and my vote

+1 for thanks section.

Best,

Nicolas

2018-07-30 23:47 GMT+02:00 Angelos Tzotsos <gcpp.kalxas at gmail.com>:

> It looks like we did not have a resolution to this issue yet, shall we
> vote on this?
>
> On Fri, Jul 27, 2018 at 1:55 AM, Cameron Shorter <
> cameron.shorter at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> When it comes to giving credit, I think there are a number of factors to
>> consider:
>> * What is the cost to us in maintaining a current list of supporters long
>> term? The supporter list is only valuable if it is known to be kept up to
>> date.
>> * What value do we gain by recognising the supporters? Eg: Saying that
>> hundreds of people have contributed to OSGeoLive is a level of endorsement
>> which has marketing value.
>> * What value do we provide to the supporters we mention? Mentioning an
>> individual developer or a small geospatial company would provide marketing
>> value whereas mentioning Google Translate would likely have much less
>> proportional value. Lets not waste our time maintaining a supporter list if
>> the supporters don't appreciate the service we provide.
>> * What contribution is worthy of mention? If we make everyone special,
>> then no one is special. We run the risk of weakening the value of our
>> endorsement by endorsing everyone who asks for it. (Same goes for which
>> projects we accept into OSGeoLive). The hardest part is working out how to
>> say "No" nicely.  It is best to have clear criteria which can be referenced.
>>
>> At the moment, I don't think Leopark fits into the criteria we have
>> applied to existing OSGeoLive sponsors. (Roughly, organisations which have
>> are providing developer time and/or resources for core OSGeoLive
>> activities). We haven't written this criteria down or talked about it much.
>>
>> We might want to create a criteria for "Supporters", as Jeff suggests.
>> But I see this a long term activity as it will take some discussion, and
>> then inviting groups to be included, then adding then ....
>>
>>
>>
>> On 27 July 2018 at 03:22, Vicky Vergara <vicky at georepublic.de> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Cameron:
>>>
>>> 
>>> I think,
>>>  if a company, no matter which company, lets us use some of the
>>> resources, in this case their Azure account, lets give them credit for
>>> doing so.
>>>
>>> I added you to the Spanish translation group
>>> Please evaluate:
>>> https://www.transifex.com/osgeo/osgeolive/translate/#es/quic
>>> kstart--ideditor_quickstart/124084168
>>>
>>>
>>> Up to this line the decision should be made.
>>>
>>> I would like to say *trust* on what OSGeoLive PSC members ask.
>>>
>>> Regards
>>> Vicky
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Thu, Jul 26, 2018 at 5:30 AM, Cameron Shorter <
>>> cameron.shorter at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi Vicky, I would like some background information before forming my
>>>> opinion on this proposal.
>>>> If we are to give leopark special mention, how does it stand out when
>>>> compared to other projects. Eg: If someone uses Google Translate, should we
>>>> also mention Google Translate?
>>>> What does Leopark gain by being mentioned? Have they requested to be
>>>> mentioned?
>>>>
>>>> On 25 July 2018 at 01:45, Nicolas Roelandt <roelandtn.pro at gmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Hi thanks Vicky,
>>>>>
>>>>> I do use it too when no pre-existing translation is not available and
>>>>> I don't know the project.
>>>>>
>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>
>>>>> Nicolas
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Le lun. 23 juil. 2018 à 23:31, Vicky Vergara <vicky at georepublic.de> a
>>>>> écrit :
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi all,
>>>>>> Since osgeolive has been in transifex, leopark let us use the
>>>>>> "translation code" to do machine translations, I would like to add it as
>>>>>> sponsor (could be a sponsor on the translations section of sponsors).
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Who does not use it:
>>>>>> English speaking only people, don't use it. because there is no need
>>>>>> to translate.
>>>>>> Languages that maybe were mostly translated, and every time the file
>>>>>> changed, they retranslated, and just copied/pasted old translation, might
>>>>>> have not used it.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> From who I know that use it (for spanish):
>>>>>> The students from the ENAH (archeology students) use it (so says
>>>>>> MarPetra <https://www.transifex.com/user/profile/MarPetra/>)
>>>>>> specially because they don't know the terminology used on the software.
>>>>>> I do use it, (as Spanish translation was incomplete, and not up to
>>>>>> date).
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Please comment
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Vicky
>>>>>>
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