[OSGeoLive] machine translations

Mon Jul 30 14:47:59 PDT 2018

It looks like we did not have a resolution to this issue yet, shall we vote
on this?

On Fri, Jul 27, 2018 at 1:55 AM, Cameron Shorter <cameron.shorter at gmail.com>
wrote:

> When it comes to giving credit, I think there are a number of factors to
> consider:
> * What is the cost to us in maintaining a current list of supporters long
> term? The supporter list is only valuable if it is known to be kept up to
> date.
> * What value do we gain by recognising the supporters? Eg: Saying that
> hundreds of people have contributed to OSGeoLive is a level of endorsement
> which has marketing value.
> * What value do we provide to the supporters we mention? Mentioning an
> individual developer or a small geospatial company would provide marketing
> value whereas mentioning Google Translate would likely have much less
> proportional value. Lets not waste our time maintaining a supporter list if
> the supporters don't appreciate the service we provide.
> * What contribution is worthy of mention? If we make everyone special,
> then no one is special. We run the risk of weakening the value of our
> endorsement by endorsing everyone who asks for it. (Same goes for which
> projects we accept into OSGeoLive). The hardest part is working out how to
> say "No" nicely.  It is best to have clear criteria which can be referenced.
>
> At the moment, I don't think Leopark fits into the criteria we have
> applied to existing OSGeoLive sponsors. (Roughly, organisations which have
> are providing developer time and/or resources for core OSGeoLive
> activities). We haven't written this criteria down or talked about it much.
>
> We might want to create a criteria for "Supporters", as Jeff suggests. But
> I see this a long term activity as it will take some discussion, and then
> inviting groups to be included, then adding then ....
>
>
>
> On 27 July 2018 at 03:22, Vicky Vergara <vicky at georepublic.de> wrote:
>
>> Hi Cameron:
>>
>> 
>> I think,
>>  if a company, no matter which company, lets us use some of the
>> resources, in this case their Azure account, lets give them credit for
>> doing so.
>>
>> I added you to the Spanish translation group
>> Please evaluate:
>> https://www.transifex.com/osgeo/osgeolive/translate/#es/quic
>> kstart--ideditor_quickstart/124084168
>>
>>
>> Up to this line the decision should be made.
>>
>> I would like to say *trust* on what OSGeoLive PSC members ask.
>>
>> Regards
>> Vicky
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Jul 26, 2018 at 5:30 AM, Cameron Shorter <
>> cameron.shorter at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Vicky, I would like some background information before forming my
>>> opinion on this proposal.
>>> If we are to give leopark special mention, how does it stand out when
>>> compared to other projects. Eg: If someone uses Google Translate, should we
>>> also mention Google Translate?
>>> What does Leopark gain by being mentioned? Have they requested to be
>>> mentioned?
>>>
>>> On 25 July 2018 at 01:45, Nicolas Roelandt <roelandtn.pro at gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi thanks Vicky,
>>>>
>>>> I do use it too when no pre-existing translation is not available and I
>>>> don't know the project.
>>>>
>>>> Cheers,
>>>>
>>>> Nicolas
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Le lun. 23 juil. 2018 à 23:31, Vicky Vergara <vicky at georepublic.de> a
>>>> écrit :
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Hi all,
>>>>> Since osgeolive has been in transifex, leopark let us use the
>>>>> "translation code" to do machine translations, I would like to add it as
>>>>> sponsor (could be a sponsor on the translations section of sponsors).
>>>>>
>>>>> Who does not use it:
>>>>> English speaking only people, don't use it. because there is no need
>>>>> to translate.
>>>>> Languages that maybe were mostly translated, and every time the file
>>>>> changed, they retranslated, and just copied/pasted old translation, might
>>>>> have not used it.
>>>>>
>>>>> From who I know that use it (for spanish):
>>>>> The students from the ENAH (archeology students) use it (so says
>>>>> MarPetra <https://www.transifex.com/user/profile/MarPetra/>)
>>>>> specially because they don't know the terminology used on the software.
>>>>> I do use it, (as Spanish translation was incomplete, and not up to
>>>>> date).
>>>>>
>>>>> Please comment
>>>>>
>>>>> Vicky
>>>>>
>>>>>
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