[OSGeoLive] machine translations

Tue Jul 31 17:51:14 PDT 2018

+0 for a "Thanks" section. I have no objection, but do we need to thank 
Ubuntu? Debian? The Linux and Apache Foundations? Their contributors? Do 
we have a rule of thumb for who we thank?

Kind regards,
Ben.

On 31/07/18 16:39, Nicolas Roelandt wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> If sponsor has a too strong meaning, we can add a "Thanks" or "Special
> Thanks" section into the sponsor page (I'm not in favour of a another page).
> 
> So we can also thanks Transifex and Github that let's us use their
> infrastructure for doing OpenSource stuff.
> 
> so here is my proposal and my vote
> 
> +1 for thanks section.
> 
> Best,
> 
> Nicolas
> 
> 
> 2018-07-30 23:47 GMT+02:00 Angelos Tzotsos <gcpp.kalxas at gmail.com>:
> 
>> It looks like we did not have a resolution to this issue yet, shall we
>> vote on this?
>>
>> On Fri, Jul 27, 2018 at 1:55 AM, Cameron Shorter <
>> cameron.shorter at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> When it comes to giving credit, I think there are a number of factors to
>>> consider:
>>> * What is the cost to us in maintaining a current list of supporters long
>>> term? The supporter list is only valuable if it is known to be kept up to
>>> date.
>>> * What value do we gain by recognising the supporters? Eg: Saying that
>>> hundreds of people have contributed to OSGeoLive is a level of endorsement
>>> which has marketing value.
>>> * What value do we provide to the supporters we mention? Mentioning an
>>> individual developer or a small geospatial company would provide marketing
>>> value whereas mentioning Google Translate would likely have much less
>>> proportional value. Lets not waste our time maintaining a supporter list if
>>> the supporters don't appreciate the service we provide.
>>> * What contribution is worthy of mention? If we make everyone special,
>>> then no one is special. We run the risk of weakening the value of our
>>> endorsement by endorsing everyone who asks for it. (Same goes for which
>>> projects we accept into OSGeoLive). The hardest part is working out how to
>>> say "No" nicely.  It is best to have clear criteria which can be referenced.
>>>
>>> At the moment, I don't think Leopark fits into the criteria we have
>>> applied to existing OSGeoLive sponsors. (Roughly, organisations which have
>>> are providing developer time and/or resources for core OSGeoLive
>>> activities). We haven't written this criteria down or talked about it much.
>>>
>>> We might want to create a criteria for "Supporters", as Jeff suggests.
>>> But I see this a long term activity as it will take some discussion, and
>>> then inviting groups to be included, then adding then ....
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On 27 July 2018 at 03:22, Vicky Vergara <vicky at georepublic.de> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi Cameron:
>>>>
>>>> 
>>>> I think,
>>>>   if a company, no matter which company, lets us use some of the
>>>> resources, in this case their Azure account, lets give them credit for
>>>> doing so.
>>>>
>>>> I added you to the Spanish translation group
>>>> Please evaluate:
>>>> https://www.transifex.com/osgeo/osgeolive/translate/#es/quic
>>>> kstart--ideditor_quickstart/124084168
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Up to this line the decision should be made.
>>>>
>>>> I would like to say *trust* on what OSGeoLive PSC members ask.
>>>>
>>>> Regards
>>>> Vicky
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Thu, Jul 26, 2018 at 5:30 AM, Cameron Shorter <
>>>> cameron.shorter at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Hi Vicky, I would like some background information before forming my
>>>>> opinion on this proposal.
>>>>> If we are to give leopark special mention, how does it stand out when
>>>>> compared to other projects. Eg: If someone uses Google Translate, should we
>>>>> also mention Google Translate?
>>>>> What does Leopark gain by being mentioned? Have they requested to be
>>>>> mentioned?
>>>>>
>>>>> On 25 July 2018 at 01:45, Nicolas Roelandt <roelandtn.pro at gmail.com>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi thanks Vicky,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I do use it too when no pre-existing translation is not available and
>>>>>> I don't know the project.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Nicolas
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Le lun. 23 juil. 2018 à 23:31, Vicky Vergara <vicky at georepublic.de> a
>>>>>> écrit :
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hi all,
>>>>>>> Since osgeolive has been in transifex, leopark let us use the
>>>>>>> "translation code" to do machine translations, I would like to add it as
>>>>>>> sponsor (could be a sponsor on the translations section of sponsors).
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Who does not use it:
>>>>>>> English speaking only people, don't use it. because there is no need
>>>>>>> to translate.
>>>>>>> Languages that maybe were mostly translated, and every time the file
>>>>>>> changed, they retranslated, and just copied/pasted old translation, might
>>>>>>> have not used it.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>  From who I know that use it (for spanish):
>>>>>>> The students from the ENAH (archeology students) use it (so says
>>>>>>> MarPetra <https://www.transifex.com/user/profile/MarPetra/>)
>>>>>>> specially because they don't know the terminology used on the software.
>>>>>>> I do use it, (as Spanish translation was incomplete, and not up to
>>>>>>> date).
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Please comment
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Vicky
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
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