[OSGeoLive] machine translations

Astrid Emde (OSGeo) astrid_emde at osgeo.org
Tue Jul 31 23:52:59 PDT 2018 

+1 Astrid


Am 31.07.2018 13:57 schrieb Johan Van de Wauw:
> +1 (for the proposal of Nicolas)
> 
> On Tue, Jul 31, 2018 at 11:59 AM, Angelos Tzotsos
> <gcpp.kalxas at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
>> +1
>> Angelos
>> 
>> On Tue, Jul 31, 2018 at 7:39 AM, Nicolas Roelandt
>> <roelandtn.pro at gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>> Hi,
>> 
>> If sponsor has a too strong meaning, we can add a "Thanks" or
>> "Special Thanks" section into the sponsor page (I'm not in favour of
>> a another page).
>> 
>> So we can also thanks Transifex and Github that let's us use their
>> infrastructure for doing OpenSource stuff.
>> 
>> so here is my proposal and my vote
>> 
>> +1 for thanks section.
>> 
>> Best,
>> 
>> Nicolas
>> 
>> 2018-07-30 23:47 GMT+02:00 Angelos Tzotsos <gcpp.kalxas at gmail.com>:
>> 
>> It looks like we did not have a resolution to this issue yet, shall
>> we vote on this?
>> 
>> On Fri, Jul 27, 2018 at 1:55 AM, Cameron Shorter
>> <cameron.shorter at gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>> When it comes to giving credit, I think there are a number of
>> factors to consider:
>> * What is the cost to us in maintaining a current list of supporters
>> long term? The supporter list is only valuable if it is known to be
>> kept up to date.
>> * What value do we gain by recognising the supporters? Eg: Saying
>> that hundreds of people have contributed to OSGeoLive is a level of
>> endorsement which has marketing value.
>> * What value do we provide to the supporters we mention? Mentioning
>> an individual developer or a small geospatial company would provide
>> marketing value whereas mentioning Google Translate would likely
>> have much less proportional value. Lets not waste our time
>> maintaining a supporter list if the supporters don't appreciate the
>> service we provide.
>> * What contribution is worthy of mention? If we make everyone
>> special, then no one is special. We run the risk of weakening the
>> value of our endorsement by endorsing everyone who asks for it.
>> (Same goes for which projects we accept into OSGeoLive). The hardest
>> part is working out how to say "No" nicely. It is best to have
>> clear criteria which can be referenced.
>> 
>> At the moment, I don't think Leopark fits into the criteria we have
>> applied to existing OSGeoLive sponsors. (Roughly, organisations
>> which have are providing developer time and/or resources for core
>> OSGeoLive activities). We haven't written this criteria down or
>> talked about it much.
>> 
>> We might want to create a criteria for "Supporters", as Jeff
>> suggests. But I see this a long term activity as it will take some
>> discussion, and then inviting groups to be included, then adding
>> then ....
>> 
>> On 27 July 2018 at 03:22, Vicky Vergara <vicky at georepublic.de>
>> wrote:
>> 
>> ​Hi Cameron:
>> 
>> ​
>> ​I think,​ if a company, no matter which company, lets us use
>> some of the resources, in this case their Azure account, lets give
>> them credit for doing so.​
>> 
>> I added you to the Spanish translation group
>> Please evaluate:
>> 
>> 
> https://www.transifex.com/osgeo/osgeolive/translate/#es/quickstart--ideditor_quickstart/124084168
>> [3]
>> 
>> Up to this line the decision should be made.
>> 
>> I would like to say *trust* on what OSGeoLive PSC members ask.
>> 
>> ​Regards
>> Vicky​
>> 
>> On Thu, Jul 26, 2018 at 5:30 AM, Cameron Shorter
>> <cameron.shorter at gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Vicky, I would like some background information before forming my
>> opinion on this proposal.
>> 
>> If we are to give leopark special mention, how does it stand out
>> when compared to other projects. Eg: If someone uses Google
>> Translate, should we also mention Google Translate?
>> 
>> What does Leopark gain by being mentioned? Have they requested to be
>> mentioned?
>> 
>> On 25 July 2018 at 01:45, Nicolas Roelandt <roelandtn.pro at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Hi thanks Vicky,
>> 
>> I do use it too when no pre-existing translation is not available
>> and I don't know the project.
>> 
>> Cheers,
>> 
>> Nicolas
>> 
>> Le lun. 23 juil. 2018 à 23:31, Vicky Vergara <vicky at georepublic.de>
>> a écrit :
>> 
>> Hi all,
>> Since osgeolive has been in transifex, leopark let us use the
>> "translation code" to do machine translations, I would like to add
>> it as sponsor (could be a sponsor on the translations section of
>> sponsors).
>> 
>> Who does not use it:
>> 
>> English speaking only people, don't use it. because there is no need
>> to translate.
>> Languages that maybe were mostly translated, and every time the file
>> changed, they retranslated, and just copied/pasted old translation,
>> might have not used it.
>> 
>> From who I know that use it (for spanish):
>> 
>> The students from the ENAH (archeology students) use it (so says
>> MarPetra [4]) specially because they don't know the terminology used
>> on the software.
>> 
>> I do use it, (as Spanish translation was incomplete, and not up to
>> date).
>> 
>> Please comment
>> 
>> Vicky
>> 
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