[OSGeoLive] Hyper-V VMs
Seth G
sethg at geographika.co.uk
Fri May 18 15:24:25 PDT 2018
Hi Angelos,
I've added the VM conversion details to the pull request.
There is quite a lot of content in the Hyper-V page so adding it to the
VirtualBox page may make it more confusing (in my view). A link to the
page on the Virtual Box page rather than the main index should be enough
without cluttering up the main index?
Also to note there seems to be a CSS issue with code directives in lists
(they are indented too far to the right).You can see an example of this at
https://live.osgeo.org/en/quickstart/istsos_quickstart.html - in the
"Add new observations" section.Removing the li div.highlight class from the overview.css file
fixes thishttps://github.com/OSGeo/OSGeoLive-doc/blob/master/doc/_themes/overview/static/overview.css
Should I include this as part of the pull request or make a new
issue/pull request?
Seth
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On Thu, May 17, 2018, at 5:44 PM, Angelos Tzotsos wrote:
> Hi Seth,
>
> Thank for the pull request. I actually had in mind that you would
> describe how to convert the image to the hyper-V format and add this
> as a section in the generic virtualization quickstart...> Do others feel we should include a new page for Hyper-V?
> Personally I would like to avoid duplication of data on SF (those
> guys are very kind with us and the disk space we occupy on their
> mirrors so far).>
> Best,
> Angelos
>
> On Tue, May 15, 2018 at 1:42 AM, Seth G
> <sethg at geographika.co.uk> wrote:>> __
>> Hi Angelos/list,
>>
>> Pull request created at
>> https://github.com/OSGeo/OSGeoLive-doc/pull/371 - as its my first
>> contribution to the project please let me know if there are any steps
>> I've missed out.>> The quickstart would rely on a converted vhdx disk image. The
>> conversion process is probably too complicated to put in a
>> quickstart guide.>> Let me know if I can help creating/uploading a converted vhdx to
>> SourceForge.>>
>> On a separate note the wiki page at
>> https://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/OSGeoLive seemed to have broken links to
>> this mailing list. I updated them, but not sure if this had to be
>> reviewed first. I'm happy to revert if this is the case.>>
>> Seth
>>
>> --
>> web:http://geographika.co.uk
>> twitter: @geographika
>>
>>
>> On Fri, May 11, 2018, at 12:20 PM, Angelos Tzotsos wrote:
>>> Thanks for the feedback Seth.
>>>
>>> I think it would be valuable to document the above steps in our VM
>>> Quickstart on a section for Hyper-V users.>>> https://live.osgeo.org/en/quickstart/virtualization_quickstart.html>>>
>>> Best,
>>> Angelos
>>>
>>> On Thu, May 10, 2018 at 10:43 PM, Seth G <sethg at geographika.co.uk>
>>> wrote:>>>> Hi Brian,
>>>>
>>>> Thanks for getting back to me. I've been trying out the conversion
>>>> process using MS tools to avoid reliance on software, that whilst
>>>> currently free, may not be in the future (the
>>>> https://www.starwindsoftware.com/converter). Full steps are at the
>>>> end of the email.>>>>
>>>> I'm fine with disabling Hyper-V for upcoming workshops - but it may
>>>> make things a little easier for users in Windows environments to
>>>> work directly with Hyper-V in the future.>>>>
>>>> The resultant .vhdx file is 10.3 GB. Using 7-zip this produces a
>>>> 3.2 GB file. This is essentially the same as the VirtualBox HD
>>>> file, but in Hyper-V format. It can then be used directly in Hyper-
>>>> V on Windows 10 Professional (and presumably other versions). I'd
>>>> be happy to create the vhdx file for Sourceforge and a Hyper-V
>>>> installation page for the docs if people think this is worthwhile
>>>> addition to the OSGeoLive project (and should be able to do the
>>>> same for the v12 planned in the summer).>>>>
>>>> One drawback with Hyper-V / Lubuntu is there is no equivalent to
>>>> the "Guest Additions" of Virtual Box. The shared clipboard and
>>>> automatic full screen don't seem to be available. It looks like
>>>> this may be on the way later this year -
>>>> https://blogs.technet.microsoft.com/virtualization/2018/02/28/sneak-peek-taking-a-spin-with-enhanced-linux-vms/>>>>
>>>> Conversion steps for OSGeoLive 11.0 vmdk for reference are as
>>>> follows:>>>>
>>>> - Download the Microsoft Virtual Machine Converter 3.0 from
>>>> https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/download/details.aspx?id=42497
>>>> and install>>>> - Download the "DS File Ops Kit" from
>>>> http://members.ozemail.com.au/~nulifetv/freezip/freeware/dsfok.zip
>>>> and unzip>>>> - Open PowerShell (with admin rights)
>>>> - Run the following command to get the disk descriptor from the
>>>> OSGeoLive vmdk:>>>>
>>>> cd D:\osgeo-live-11.0-vm
>>>> D:\tools\dsfo.exe .\osgeo-live-11.0-vm.vmdk 512 1024
>>>> descriptor1.txt>>>>
>>>> - This saves the disk description to the "descriptor1.txt" file.
>>>> Open this in Notepad / a text editor and comment out the
>>>> following lines (using hashes). This metadata is VirtualBox
>>>> specific and is not recognised by the converter.>>>>
>>>> #ddb.uuid.image="0247ca9d-f9aa-4910-9e8c-1c14d83a7749"
>>>> #ddb.uuid.parent="00000000-0000-0000-0000-000000000000"
>>>> #ddb.uuid.modification="81a1d704-3e4a-443d-a5ca-2fd085ba086a"
>>>> #ddb.uuid.parentmodification="00000000-0000-0000-0000-000000000000">>>> #ddb.comment=""
>>>>
>>>> - Run the following command to insert the disk descriptor back into
>>>> the .vmdk>>>>
>>>> D:\tools\dsfi.exe .\osgeo-live-11.0-vm.vmdk 512 1024
>>>> descriptor1.txt>>>>
>>>> Failing to do the above steps will result in the error "ConvertTo-
>>>> MvmcVirtualHardDisk : The entry 0247ca9d-f9aa-4910-9e8c-
>>>> 1c14d83a7749 is not a supported disk database entry for the
>>>> descriptor.">>>>
>>>> - Finally run the conversion process:
>>>>
>>>> Import-Module "C:\Program Files\Microsoft Virtual Machine
>>>> Converter\MvmcCmdlet.psd1">>>> cd D:\osgeo-live-11.0-vm
>>>> ConvertTo-MvmcVirtualHardDisk -SourceLiteralPath .\osgeo-live-11.0-
>>>> vm.vmdk -VhdFormat Vhdx>>>>
>>>> Above steps based on https://stackoverflow.com/a/49768353/179520
>>>> and http://semantive.com/converting-ova-vm-to-hyper-v-format/>>>>
>>>> Regards,
>>>>
>>>> Seth
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> web:http://geographika.co.uk twitter: @geographika>>>> On Thu, May 10, 2018, at 6:26 PM, Brian M Hamlin wrote:
>>>> >
>>>> > On Thu, 10 May 2018 18:01:47 0200, Seth G
>>>> > <sethg at geographika.co.uk> wrote:>>>> > > Hi list,
>>>> > >
>>>> > > I'm currently preparing a Python workshop for the OSGeo Ireland>>>> > > meetup, using OSGeo Live as the training environment - it is an>>>> > > exceptional resource.
>>>> >
>>>> > Hi Seth
>>>> >
>>>> > > Several users have Windows 10 Professional machines which are
>>>> > > enabled>>>> > > to run Hyper-V, Microsoft's virtualisation software. If this is>>>> > > enabled then VirtualBox doesn't have a x64 option for creating
>>>> > > new>>>> > > Linux machines. This feature can be disabled at the command
>>>> > > line, or>>>> > > using the https://unclassified.software/en/apps/hypervswitch
>>>> > > tool>>>> > > which automates this.
>>>> > Either option requires a reboot, and means using Hyper-V VMs
>>>> > would>>>> > require enabling the setting and another reboot.
>>>> >
>>>> > ok, new to me, but if I understand, Windows 10 plus Hyper-V has
>>>> > some>>>> > 'features' which prevent people from executing a VM ..
>>>> > a small tool works around this..
>>>> >
>>>> > > An alternative is to run the VM under Hyper-V, but this
>>>> > > requires>>>> > > converting the .vmdk HD to .vhd. There are a few commandline
>>>> > > options>>>> > > and hacks around to do this but only the
>>>> > > https://www.starwindsoftware.com/converter option worked for
>>>> > > me. The>>>> > > converted OSGeoLive VM then ran fine on Hyper-V.
>>>> >
>>>> > So, you take the VirtualBox VM setup, and then convert just the
>>>> > disk>>>> > image ? and the result runs without more steps under Hyper-V ?
>>>> >
>>>> > > Is there an option of adding this download to
>>>> > > https://sourceforge.net/projects/osgeo-live/files/11.0/ ? It
>>>> > > would be>>>> > > another large file to host, and would likely need to be done
>>>> > > manually>>>> > > for each release.
>>>> >
>>>> > Yes, a new file could be added to sourceforge.. What is it and
>>>> > do>>>> > we want it is the next part :-)
>>>> >
>>>> > > Are final builds / uploading to SourceForge currently a manual
>>>> > > process?>>>> >
>>>> > builds and uploads are automated with manual steps, might be
>>>> > one>>>> > way to say it..
>>>> > What is the time frame for your setup?
>>>> >
>>>> > This is the first time anyone has requested Hyper-V support,
>>>> > that I>>>> > know of..
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> > --
>>>> > Brian M Hamlin
>>>> > OSGeo California
>>>> > blog.light42.com
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> >
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