[OSGeoLive] Hyper-V VMs

Mon May 21 10:20:23 PDT 2018

Hi Seth,

Please make a separate pull request for this issue.

Thanks,
Angelos

On Sat, May 19, 2018 at 1:24 AM, Seth G <sethg at geographika.co.uk> wrote:

> Hi Angelos,
>
> I've added the VM conversion details to the pull request.
> There is quite a lot of content in the Hyper-V page so adding it to the
> VirtualBox page may make it more confusing (in my view). A link to the page
> on the Virtual Box page rather than the main index should be enough without
> cluttering up the main index?
>
> Also to note there seems to be a CSS issue with code directives in lists
> (they are indented too far to the right).
> You can see an example of this at https://live.osgeo.org/en/
> quickstart/istsos_quickstart.html - in the "Add new observations"
> section.
> Removing the li div.highlight class from the overview.css file fixes this
> https://github.com/OSGeo/OSGeoLive-doc/blob/master/doc/
> _themes/overview/static/overview.css
>
> Should I include this as part of the pull request or make a new issue/pull
> request?
>
> Seth
>
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>
>
> On Thu, May 17, 2018, at 5:44 PM, Angelos Tzotsos wrote:
>
> Hi Seth,
>
> Thank for the pull request. I actually had in mind that you would describe
> how to convert the image to the hyper-V format and add this as a section in
> the generic virtualization quickstart...
> Do others feel we should include a new page for Hyper-V?
> Personally I would like to avoid duplication of data on SF (those guys are
> very kind with us and the disk space we occupy on their mirrors so far).
>
> Best,
> Angelos
>
> On Tue, May 15, 2018 at 1:42 AM, Seth G <sethg at geographika.co.uk> wrote:
>
>
> Hi Angelos/list,
>
> Pull request created at https://github.com/OSGeo/OSGeoLive-doc/pull/371 -
> as its my first contribution to the project please let me know if there are
> any steps I've missed out.
> The quickstart would rely on a converted vhdx disk image. The conversion
> process is probably too complicated to put in a quickstart guide.
> Let me know if I can help creating/uploading a converted vhdx to
> SourceForge.
>
> On a separate note the wiki page at https://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/OSGeoLive seemed
> to have broken links to this mailing list. I updated them, but not sure if
> this had to be reviewed first. I'm happy to revert if this is the case.
>
> Seth
>
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> twitter: @geographika
>
>
> On Fri, May 11, 2018, at 12:20 PM, Angelos Tzotsos wrote:
>
> Thanks for the feedback Seth.
>
> I think it would be valuable to document the above steps in our VM
> Quickstart on a section for Hyper-V users.
> https://live.osgeo.org/en/quickstart/virtualization_quickstart.html
>
> Best,
> Angelos
>
> On Thu, May 10, 2018 at 10:43 PM, Seth G <sethg at geographika.co.uk> wrote:
>
> Hi Brian,
>
> Thanks for getting back to me. I've been trying out the conversion process
> using MS tools to avoid reliance on software, that whilst currently free,
> may not be in the future (the https://www.starwindsoftware.com/converter).
> Full steps are at the end of the email.
>
> I'm fine with disabling Hyper-V for upcoming workshops - but it may make
> things a little easier for users in Windows environments to work directly
> with Hyper-V in the future.
>
> The resultant .vhdx file is 10.3 GB. Using 7-zip this produces a 3.2 GB
> file. This is essentially the same as the VirtualBox HD file, but in
> Hyper-V format. It can then be used directly in Hyper-V on Windows 10
> Professional (and presumably other versions). I'd be happy to create the
> vhdx file for Sourceforge and a Hyper-V installation page for the docs if
> people think this is worthwhile addition to the OSGeoLive project (and
> should be able to do the same for the v12 planned in the summer).
>
> One drawback with Hyper-V / Lubuntu is there is no equivalent to the
> "Guest Additions" of Virtual Box. The shared clipboard and automatic full
> screen don't seem to be available. It looks like this may be on the way
> later this year - https://blogs.technet.microsof
> t.com/virtualization/2018/02/28/sneak-peek-taking-a-spin-wit
> h-enhanced-linux-vms/
>
> Conversion steps for OSGeoLive 11.0 vmdk for reference are as follows:
>
> - Download the Microsoft Virtual Machine Converter 3.0 from
> https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/download/details.aspx?id=42497 and install
> - Download the "DS File Ops Kit" from http://members.ozemail.com.au/
> ~nulifetv/freezip/freeware/dsfok.zip and unzip
> - Open PowerShell (with admin rights)
> - Run the following command to get the disk descriptor from the OSGeoLive
> vmdk:
>
> cd D:\osgeo-live-11.0-vm
> D:\tools\dsfo.exe .\osgeo-live-11.0-vm.vmdk 512 1024 descriptor1.txt
>
> - This saves the disk description to the "descriptor1.txt" file. Open this
> in Notepad / a text editor and comment out the following lines (using
> hashes). This metadata is VirtualBox specific and is not recognised by the
> converter.
>
> #ddb.uuid.image="0247ca9d-f9aa-4910-9e8c-1c14d83a7749"
> #ddb.uuid.parent="00000000-0000-0000-0000-000000000000"
> #ddb.uuid.modification="81a1d704-3e4a-443d-a5ca-2fd085ba086a"
> #ddb.uuid.parentmodification="00000000-0000-0000-0000-000000000000"
> #ddb.comment=""
>
> - Run the following command to insert the disk descriptor back into the
> .vmdk
>
> D:\tools\dsfi.exe .\osgeo-live-11.0-vm.vmdk 512 1024 descriptor1.txt
>
> Failing to do the above steps will result in the error
> "ConvertTo-MvmcVirtualHardDisk : The entry 0247ca9d-f9aa-4910-9e8c-1c14d83a7749
> is not a supported disk database entry for the descriptor."
>
> - Finally run the conversion process:
>
> Import-Module "C:\Program Files\Microsoft Virtual Machine
> Converter\MvmcCmdlet.psd1"
> cd D:\osgeo-live-11.0-vm
> ConvertTo-MvmcVirtualHardDisk -SourceLiteralPath .\osgeo-live-11.0-vm.vmdk
> -VhdFormat Vhdx
>
> Above steps based on https://stackoverflow.com/a/49768353/179520 and
> http://semantive.com/converting-ova-vm-to-hyper-v-format/
>
> Regards,
>
> Seth
>
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> On Thu, May 10, 2018, at 6:26 PM, Brian M Hamlin wrote:
> >
> > On Thu, 10 May 2018 18:01:47 0200, Seth G <sethg at geographika.co.uk>
> wrote:
> > > Hi list,
> > >
> > > I'm currently preparing a Python workshop for the OSGeo Ireland
> > > meetup, using OSGeo Live as the training environment - it is an
> > > exceptional resource.
> >
> >   Hi Seth
> >
> > > Several users have Windows 10 Professional machines which are enabled
> > > to run Hyper-V, Microsoft's virtualisation software. If this is
> > > enabled then VirtualBox doesn't have a x64 option for creating new
> > > Linux machines. This feature can be disabled at the command line, or
> > > using the https://unclassified.software/en/apps/hypervswitch tool
> > > which automates this.
> > Either option requires a reboot, and means using Hyper-V VMs would
> > require enabling the setting and another reboot.
> >
> >   ok, new to me, but if I understand, Windows 10 plus Hyper-V has some
> > 'features' which prevent people from executing a VM ..
> > a small tool works around this..
> >
> > > An alternative is to run the VM under Hyper-V, but this requires
> > > converting the .vmdk HD to .vhd. There are a few commandline options
> > > and hacks around to do this but only the
> > > https://www.starwindsoftware.com/converter option worked for me. The
> > > converted OSGeoLive VM then ran fine on Hyper-V.
> >
> >   So, you take the VirtualBox VM setup, and then convert just the disk
> > image ?  and the result runs without more steps under Hyper-V ?
> >
> > > Is there an option of adding this download to
> > > https://sourceforge.net/projects/osgeo-live/files/11.0/ ? It would be
> > > another large file to host, and would likely need to be done manually
> > > for each release.
> >
> >    Yes, a new file could be added to sourceforge.. What is it and do
> > we want it is the next part  :-)
> >
> > > Are final builds / uploading to SourceForge currently a manual process?
> >
> >    builds and uploads are automated with manual steps, might be one
> > way to say it..
> > What is the time frame for your setup?
> >
> >   This is the first time anyone has requested Hyper-V support, that I
> > know of..
> >
> >
> > --
> > Brian M Hamlin
> > OSGeo California
> > blog.light42.com
> >
> >
> >
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