[OSGeoLive] OSGeoLive Cloud -- (was Budget 2019)

[Cameron Shorter]

During the FOSS4G Oceania community day, Bruce Anger and John 
Hildebrandt made great progress toward running OSGeoLive in AWS.

Bruce's notes are here: 
https://docs.google.com/document/d/12Hix3gAlOkbpyBj9EjOza-JLMEvS6l135Z-Hpuw7ZlU/edit?ts=5bf77367

James, your points are valid when considering setting up a production 
server. However, if we initially limit the target use case to a 
workshop/demo type setting, with nothing on the VM to be considered of 
value, then I assume security should be able to be ignored.

(A future iteration could address security).

Brian, I probably should have been more specific about the use case I 
was suggesting.

Cheers, Cameron

On 15/1/19 4:09 am, James Klassen wrote:
> Technically, I suspect it would be relatively easy to convert the 
> OSGeoLive VM image into the formats accepted by various cloud providers.
>
> My main concern is that historically OSGeoLive has been setup 
> prioritizing ease of use on a single user machine to let a new user 
> explore and learn the software with as few hurdles as possible.  This 
> seems in fundamental conflict with best practices for putting a server 
> on the open internet (in the cloud or otherwise).
>
> For example, we have easily guessable and well documented passwords, 
> generally permissive permissions in applications and on the 
> filesystem, unrestrictive firewall, way more than the minimum software 
> installed than is needed for any given task (increasing attack surface 
> area), ...
>
> I think we would need to put some serious thought into how to secure 
> an OSGeoLive cloud image and what that might mean for usability.
>
> On Sun, Jan 13, 2019, 20:04 Brian M Hamlin <maplabs at light42.com 
> <mailto:maplabs at light42.com> wrote:
>
>     Hi All --
>
>     > creating a "OSGeoLive in the Cloud" instance
>
>       It might be said that OSGeoLive is ...
>
>     - a flagship for OSGeo dot org
>
>     - a proof-of-work for UbuntuGIS integration
>
>     - a service to all of the member software projects, incubated or
>     others
>
>         literally multiplying the leverage of interoperable data
>     toolchains when combined
>
>     - a service to all of the science communities worldwide, in all
>     major human languages
>
>     - a service to students of all kinds, in all places touched by
>     technology
>
>       ... others not mentioned
>
>     So, what might a "cloud" OSGeoLive be ?  news flash, many
>     long-standing projects now
>
>     included on OSGeoLive are quite active in the cloud and continue
>     to be..
>
>     Major cloud players say - Ubuntu OS is the most popular cloud
>     service OS by number of customers
>
>     OSGeoLive is already an Ubuntu platform project. so ....
>
>     companies handling geospatial data chains are already using
>     directly, UbuntuGIS PPA to build...
>
>     Some.. but another fact .. Docker technology easily runs Ubuntu
>     PPA systems on a RedHat base, today.
>
>     The Docker container shares the kernel only with the host, while
>     the rest of the OS layers are Debian/Ubuntu.
>
>     Is there an economic arguement to be made, with respect to a
>     "cloud" OSGeoLive ?
>
>     I find many economic arguements to be badly self-contradicting,
>     when viewed broadly..
>
>     The OSGeoLive project has continuity and serious utility.. beyond
>     that, opinions vary widely..
>
>     Is a "cloud" OSGeoLive the right move ?  with what resources ? 
>     open questions
>
>       best regards from Berkeley, California
>
>      -Brian M Hamlin  darkblue_b  dbb
>
>
>     On Sun, 13 Jan 2019 20:23:28 +1100, Cameron Shorter
>     <cameron.shorter at gmail.com <mailto:cameron.shorter at gmail.com>> wrote:
>
>         I'm really hopeful that we'll see some people follow through with
>         creating a "OSGeoLive in the Cloud" instance which could be
>         spun up and
>         used during training sessions. (This could be a great Google
>         Season of
>         Code topic). I think this could be done with free developer AWS
>         instances, but it would be good to have access to budget if
>         required to
>         support a first deployment.
>
>         Also, it would be good to have discretionary funding to pay for
>         OSGeoLive USBs for conferences that ask for it during the
>         year. Maybe do
>         a print run of 500 to 1000 USBs (That would be 50 to 100 USBs
>         at an
>         OSGeo table at a conference/workshop/code sprint, for 10 to 20
>         events).
>
>         On 13/1/19 3:11 am, Astrid Emde (OSGeo) wrote:
>         > Hello folks,
>         >
>         > yes - it is time to think about the budget for 2019.
>         >
>
>         -- 
>         Cameron Shorter
>         ...
>
>
>     --
>     Brian M Hamlin
>     OSGeo California
>     blog.light42.com <http://blog.light42.com>
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