[OSGeoLive] OSGeoLive Cloud -- (was Budget 2019)
cameron.shorter at gmail.com
Tue Jan 15 03:49:32 PST 2019
During the FOSS4G Oceania community day, Bruce Anger and John
Hildebrandt made great progress toward running OSGeoLive in AWS.
Bruce's notes are here:
James, your points are valid when considering setting up a production
server. However, if we initially limit the target use case to a
workshop/demo type setting, with nothing on the VM to be considered of
value, then I assume security should be able to be ignored.
(A future iteration could address security).
Brian, I probably should have been more specific about the use case I
On 15/1/19 4:09 am, James Klassen wrote:
> Technically, I suspect it would be relatively easy to convert the
> OSGeoLive VM image into the formats accepted by various cloud providers.
> My main concern is that historically OSGeoLive has been setup
> prioritizing ease of use on a single user machine to let a new user
> explore and learn the software with as few hurdles as possible. This
> seems in fundamental conflict with best practices for putting a server
> on the open internet (in the cloud or otherwise).
> For example, we have easily guessable and well documented passwords,
> generally permissive permissions in applications and on the
> filesystem, unrestrictive firewall, way more than the minimum software
> installed than is needed for any given task (increasing attack surface
> area), ...
> I think we would need to put some serious thought into how to secure
> an OSGeoLive cloud image and what that might mean for usability.
> On Sun, Jan 13, 2019, 20:04 Brian M Hamlin <maplabs at light42.com
> <mailto:maplabs at light42.com> wrote:
> Hi All --
> > creating a "OSGeoLive in the Cloud" instance
> It might be said that OSGeoLive is ...
> - a flagship for OSGeo dot org
> - a proof-of-work for UbuntuGIS integration
> - a service to all of the member software projects, incubated or
> literally multiplying the leverage of interoperable data
> toolchains when combined
> - a service to all of the science communities worldwide, in all
> major human languages
> - a service to students of all kinds, in all places touched by
> ... others not mentioned
> So, what might a "cloud" OSGeoLive be ? news flash, many
> long-standing projects now
> included on OSGeoLive are quite active in the cloud and continue
> to be..
> Major cloud players say - Ubuntu OS is the most popular cloud
> service OS by number of customers
> OSGeoLive is already an Ubuntu platform project. so ....
> companies handling geospatial data chains are already using
> directly, UbuntuGIS PPA to build...
> Some.. but another fact .. Docker technology easily runs Ubuntu
> PPA systems on a RedHat base, today.
> The Docker container shares the kernel only with the host, while
> the rest of the OS layers are Debian/Ubuntu.
> Is there an economic arguement to be made, with respect to a
> "cloud" OSGeoLive ?
> I find many economic arguements to be badly self-contradicting,
> when viewed broadly..
> The OSGeoLive project has continuity and serious utility.. beyond
> that, opinions vary widely..
> Is a "cloud" OSGeoLive the right move ? with what resources ?
> open questions
> best regards from Berkeley, California
> -Brian M Hamlin darkblue_b dbb
> On Sun, 13 Jan 2019 20:23:28 +1100, Cameron Shorter
> <cameron.shorter at gmail.com <mailto:cameron.shorter at gmail.com>> wrote:
> I'm really hopeful that we'll see some people follow through with
> creating a "OSGeoLive in the Cloud" instance which could be
> spun up and
> used during training sessions. (This could be a great Google
> Season of
> Code topic). I think this could be done with free developer AWS
> instances, but it would be good to have access to budget if
> required to
> support a first deployment.
> Also, it would be good to have discretionary funding to pay for
> OSGeoLive USBs for conferences that ask for it during the
> year. Maybe do
> a print run of 500 to 1000 USBs (That would be 50 to 100 USBs
> at an
> OSGeo table at a conference/workshop/code sprint, for 10 to 20
> On 13/1/19 3:11 am, Astrid Emde (OSGeo) wrote:
> > Hello folks,
> > yes - it is time to think about the budget for 2019.
> Cameron Shorter
> Brian M Hamlin
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