[OSGeoLive] OSGeoLive Cloud -- (was Budget 2019)

[James Klassen]

Technically, I suspect it would be relatively easy to convert the OSGeoLive
VM image into the formats accepted by various cloud providers.

My main concern is that historically OSGeoLive has been setup prioritizing
ease of use on a single user machine to let a new user explore and learn
the software with as few hurdles as possible.  This seems in fundamental
conflict with best practices for putting a server on the open internet (in
the cloud or otherwise).

For example, we have easily guessable and well documented passwords,
generally permissive permissions in applications and on the filesystem,
unrestrictive firewall, way more than the minimum software installed than
is needed for any given task (increasing attack surface area), ...

I think we would need to put some serious thought into how to secure an
OSGeoLive cloud image and what that might mean for usability.

On Sun, Jan 13, 2019, 20:04 Brian M Hamlin <maplabs at light42.com wrote:

> Hi All --
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> > creating a "OSGeoLive in the Cloud" instance
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>   It might be said that OSGeoLive is ...
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> - a flagship for OSGeo dot org
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> - a proof-of-work for UbuntuGIS integration
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> - a service to all of the member software projects, incubated or others
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>     literally multiplying the leverage of interoperable data toolchains
> when combined
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> - a service to all of the science communities worldwide, in all major
> human languages
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> - a service to students of all kinds, in all places touched by technology
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>   ... others not mentioned
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> So, what might a "cloud" OSGeoLive be ?   news flash, many long-standing
> projects now
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> included on OSGeoLive are quite active in the cloud and continue to be..
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> Major cloud players say - Ubuntu OS is the most popular cloud service OS
> by number of customers
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> OSGeoLive is already an Ubuntu platform project. so ....
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> companies handling geospatial data chains are already using directly,
> UbuntuGIS PPA to build...
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> Some.. but another fact .. Docker technology easily runs Ubuntu PPA
> systems on a RedHat base, today.
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> The Docker container shares the kernel only with the host, while the rest
> of the OS layers are Debian/Ubuntu.
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> Is there an economic arguement to be made, with respect to a "cloud"
> OSGeoLive ?
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> I find many economic arguements to be badly self-contradicting, when
> viewed broadly..
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> The OSGeoLive project has continuity and serious utility.. beyond that,
> opinions vary widely..
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> Is a "cloud" OSGeoLive the right move ?  with what resources ?  open
> questions
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>
>
>   best regards from Berkeley, California
>
>  -Brian M Hamlin     darkblue_b  dbb
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> On Sun, 13 Jan 2019 20:23:28 +1100, Cameron Shorter <
> cameron.shorter at gmail.com> wrote:
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> I'm really hopeful that we'll see some people follow through with
> creating a "OSGeoLive in the Cloud" instance which could be spun up and
> used during training sessions. (This could be a great Google Season of
> Code topic). I think this could be done with free developer AWS
> instances, but it would be good to have access to budget if required to
> support a first deployment.
>
> Also, it would be good to have discretionary funding to pay for
> OSGeoLive USBs for conferences that ask for it during the year. Maybe do
> a print run of 500 to 1000 USBs (That would be 50 to 100 USBs at an
> OSGeo table at a conference/workshop/code sprint, for 10 to 20 events).
>
> On 13/1/19 3:11 am, Astrid Emde (OSGeo) wrote:
> > Hello folks,
> >
> > yes - it is time to think about the budget for 2019.
> >
>
> --
> Cameron Shorter
> ...
>
>
> --
> Brian M Hamlin
> OSGeo California
> blog.light42.com
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