[OSGeoLive] Will there be an ARM version of the osgeo live?

[Cameron Shorter]

Ah cool.
Is there a free-tier cloud offering powerful enough to install OSGeo-Live?
Is there enough interest to justify writing a quickstart on how to do this
and have the quickstart included in OSGeoLive docs?
If so, one of the Good Docs Writers might be tempted to write up a
Quickstart.
+Nelson Guya <nelsonkimani63 at gmail.com> ?


On Wed, 9 Feb 2022 at 04:07, Angelos Tzotsos <gcpp.kalxas at gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi Cameron,
>
> Running OSGeoLive on the cloud is trivial and is already offered by
> commercial cloud providers (e.g. I have seen it in CreoDIAS which is
> based on OpenStack)
> https://creodias.eu/-/how-to-get-access-to-gui-on-vm-with-osgeolive-image-
>
> Best,
> Angelos
>
> On 2/7/22 20:43, Cameron Shorter wrote:
> > Something which is getting more-and-more feasible every year is to run
> > OSGeo-Live as a virtual machine in the cloud.
> > We actually managed to do this back in 2009
> > <
> http://cameronshorter.blogspot.com/2009/10/try-open-source-geospatial-desktop.html
> >,
> > but the partners working on it got stuck in the following release.
> > Someone might want to take another look at this approach?
> >
> > On Tue, 8 Feb 2022 at 01:47, James Klassen <jklassen at sharedgeo.org>
> wrote:
> >
> >> There was discussion awhile back about supporting ARM for Raspberry Pi
> and
> >> similar SBCs that came to the same conclusion that it would take more
> >> developer resources that were available.
> >>
> >> OSGeo Live is meant to “just work” to encourage new users explore the
> >> software without having to first face the learning curve of getting it
> >> installed and configured correctly.  That is a lot more difficult to
> >> accomplish when users face to face the variations inherent in running
> >> different architectures.
> >>
> >> Most, but not all of the packages that go into OSGeo Live are available
> on
> >> ARM (are in Ubuntu-GIS and Debian-GIS or are platform agnostic and
> install
> >> the same files as on x86).  So, technically it isn’t too far fetched.
> But,
> >> if I remember correctly, pain points are testing and documentation.  I’d
> >> venture a guess that, by far, nearly all of the developer time on OSGeo
> >> Live is spent on testing and documentation.
> >>
> >> Another issue with ARM is that while the user space is the same/similar
> >> across ARM devices, a bootable image (like we do with x86) would have
> to be
> >> tailored to each device.  Maybe there would be a way to just provide a
> user
> >> space and have the user provide the matching version of Ubuntu for their
> >> machine.  Maybe the whole thing could be built into a snap or flatpak or
> >> appimage.  It would still be a different experience than we’ve
> >> traditionally had for x86 which raises documentation and ease of use
> >> concerns.
> >>
> >>
> >> I’m also a bit surprised the M1 Macs can’t run x86 OSes in emulation.
> >> There were programs that emulated a PC to allow 68k and PowerPC  era
> Macs
> >> to run DOS/Windows.
> >>
> >> On Sat, Feb 5, 2022 at 04:06 Angelos Tzotsos <gcpp.kalxas at gmail.com>
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >>> Dear Barend,
> >>>
> >>> We do not have an ARM version. This would require more developer
> >>> resources than we currently have, so there is currently no plan to
> >>> support this architecture.
> >>>
> >>> Best,
> >>> Angelos
> >>>
> >>> On 2/2/22 01:24, Kobben, Barend (UT-ITC) wrote:
> >>>> For installation in the Parallels virtual machine on a new MacPro
> >>> (running on the Apple silicon architecture), an ARM version instead of
> an
> >>> Intel version is needed. Is that available, or will in be...? Or are
> there
> >>> alternative ways to get it running on a Mac M1...?
> >>>> --
> >>>> Barend Köbben
> >>>> Senior Lecturer – ITC-GIP & ATLAS, University Twente
> >>>> PO Box 217, 7500 AE Enschede (The Netherlands)
> >>>> +31-(0)53 4874 253 / room 1-065 ITC
> >>>>
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> >>> President
> >>> Open Source Geospatial Foundation
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>
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> President
> Open Source Geospatial Foundation
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>
>

-- 
Cameron Shorter
Technical Writer, Google
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