[Pacific] [PICISOC] Munich's transition from Microsoft to Open Source

[Edwin Liava'a]

Hi All,

If China, Asian, African, Latin America and European countries are
turning towards Open Source, even Microsoft is moving some of its
services to Open Source, then why NOT us here in the Pacific.

I can understand someone who can afford a Mac for personal computing
working at a regional organization, freedom of choice since all is
affordable to him/herself.

I would like us to think of smaller Pacific Islands with very limited
financial resources to sustain Proprietary licenses for OS and Office
tools for government offices and schools. Let alone the software
piracy issues, security issues, viruses, malware, etc.

Maybe some of you should visit those Pacific Island states and even
rural communities in bigger Islands like Fiji, Solomon Islands and
PNG.

We should be mindful of these issues.

cheers,

Edwin






On 11/27/13, fredchris <fredchries at connect.com.fj> wrote:
> Yes! This is very well said
> The worst dangers is when such minded advices reaches those in leaderships
> and then are imposed
>
> Advocacy for open minds maybe good for the Pacific in the interim
>
> Cheers
> Fred
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: picisoc-bounces at picisoc.org [mailto:picisoc-bounces at picisoc.org] On
> Behalf Of Sioeli Tonga
> Sent: Wednesday, 27 November 2013 12:58 PM
> To: Pacific Islands Chapter of the Internet Society Discussion List
> Cc: pacific-islands
> Subject: Re: [PICISOC] Munich's transition from Microsoft to Open Source
>
> They claim to be freeing themselves of closed-source proprietary software
> and vendor lock-in but they're still using SAP.  Hypocritical much?
>
> This project clearly wasn't about saving money (there are arguments for
> both
> sides as to which cost less) and the freedom you speak of below is
> subjective.  This type of project is a huge undertaking and I wouldn't
> consider the Munich example necessarily as a template for the Pacific.
>
> I cringe every time I read these one-sided pro-Open-Source, anti-Microsoft
> comments just as much as I cringe when being subjected to the marketing
> hype
> from the closed-source, proprietary software crowd.  The Kool-Aid runs deep
> in both camps.
>
> In my experience, most of the anti-Microsoft crowd have not had any
> meaningful experience with a well-designed and well-implemented modern
> Microsoft technology stack (it's not 1999 anymore people!).  Their
> cost-saving arguments are usually limited to the initial CAPEX spend and
> barely touch on the ongoing operational costs, any integration work
> required
> to work with existing systems, retraining, re-tooling, and finding a pool
> of
> adequately trained and experienced staff to develop, maintain and run with
> a
> customised distro and management tools.
>
> I'm pro-FOSS just as much as I am pro-anthying that works well and gets the
> job done.  I'm not a fanatic of the FOSS cause in the same way I am not a
> rabid fan-boy of companys that produce proprietry closed-source products.
> I
> will use software from either camp where it is a right fit, where it
> satisfies requirements, where it's the most appropriate solution.
>
> Encouraging a one-sided view of an ever-changing technology landscape is
> not
> beneficial to our Pacific Islands.  If there's one thing I do like about
> the
> FOSS philosophy, it's keeping an Open Mind.
>
> Sio
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: picisoc-bounces at picisoc.org [mailto:picisoc-bounces at picisoc.org] On
> Behalf Of Edwin Liava'a
> Sent: Wednesday, 27 November 2013 5:12 AM
> To: Pacific Islands Chapter of the Internet Society Discussion List
> Cc: pacific-islands
> Subject: Re: [PICISOC] Munich's transition from Microsoft to Open Source
>
> +1 nicely summarized Christian..cheers!
>
> On 11/27/13, ICTL <ictl at linnixislands.com> wrote:
>>
>> +1
>>
>> Thanks Edwin: quite interesting!
>>
>> So, back in '02 Billy Gates told Munich: "screw you, out with NT, pay
>> up for the next wonder!"
>>
>> Munich told them: "screw YOU! Take your shackles back, we are going
>> Open source!"
>>
>> Then the Billionaire chaps jet into Munich in person to...  beg?
>>
>> Hilarious.
>>
>> The 10 year long voyage out of MS and into freedom should be a warning
>> to all of us, of the cost of getting baited into Closed proprietary
>> systems.
>>
>> Sad that Gate$ is spending his billions baiting kids in schools with
>> free software $AMPLE$....
>>
>> My 2
>>
>> Christian
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On 2013-11-26 9:57 AM, Edwin Liava'a wrote:
>>> Hi All,
>>>
>>> Find here a great read on Munich's transition from Microsoft to Open
>>> Source
>>>
> http://www.techrepublic.com/article/how-munich-rejected-steve-ballmer-and-ki
> cked-microsoft-out-of-the-city/#!
>>>
>>> Pacific Islands should follow the same path.
>>>
>>> cheers,
>>>
>>> Edwin
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