[pgrouting-users] PSC - what next?

[Daniel Kastl]

Mori-san,

As far as I know it is no problem to use OSGeo infrastructure, especially
mailing lists are quite popular. There are many projects that are not OSGeo
projects, that have a mailing list there. The latest one I saw was
"MapProxy".

I think pgRouting is the perfect OSGeo Labs project:
http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/OSGeo_Labs
pgRouting is actually listed there already (OK, I put it there some time ago
;-)

Incubation process lacks of available mentors, so if small projects don't
make a big noise, not much will happen (my personal impression from
following the incubation list).

Regarding OSGeo infrastructure I'm not sure it's that convenient and I don't
know how easy a project can get access to install the "Forum" extension on
TRAC for example. For SVN and mailing lists I don't see a big problem
though.

My alternative idea was to run a "pgRouting only" virtual machine on a
dedicated server, so nobody needs to get access to a company network to fix
server troubles. Another virtual machine could be for demos then and be
rolled back to a previous snapshot if something goes wrong.

But I agree with you that it's more a burden to host some open source
project on company servers and keep it running.

Daniel



2010/3/29 Toru Mori（森亮） <moritoru at orkney.co.jp>

> Hi list,
>
> I think It is good idea to move the infrastructures form Orkney to OSGeo.
> It will reduce time and resources for maintenance and maybe give us
> reliability.
>
> However, does OSGeo accept to host pgRouting which has not been an official
> project yet?
> I know the case of GeoServer that has been using their infrastructures for
> the mailing lists.
> http://geoserver.org/display/GEOS/Mailing+Lists
> Only one exception is the Japanese language mailing list, which is the
> latest one and on the OSGeo server just after GeoServer has accepted as one
> of the OSGeo incubation projects.
>
> So before starting the discussion, we should know if OSGeo hosts our
> project without being accepted as the incubation.
> Also we should discuss pgRouting should become OSGeo project first. I
> thinks this has not been decided yet so far.
>
> Toru Mori
>
>
> On 2010/03/29, at 21:16, Daniel Kastl wrote:
>
> > Hi Stephen and others,
> >
> > Sorry for the late answer, but I was "offline" for a few days ;-)
> >
> > First some updates on the designated initial PSC members, who are right
> now:
> >       • Anton Patrushev
> >       • Christian Gonzalez
> >       • Ema Miyawaki
> >       • Frédéric Junod
> >       • Stephen Woodbridge
> >       • Venkatesh Raghavan
> > Also updated on the wiki http://pgrouting.postlbs.org/wiki/PSC
> > There I removed the paragraph about IRC as well. (
> http://pgrouting.postlbs.org/wiki/PSC?action=history)
> >
> > I didn't read yet the details about OpenLayers or Mapserver PSC process.
> Is there any important difference? Any advantage of one of them?
> >
> > In my opinion we could get started like this:
> >
> > (1) CONFIRM INITIAL PSC
> >       • I would like to hear from each PSC member on this list what they
> think about the PSC guideline and if they are (still) willing to join (at
> least a +1 would be nice ;-)
> >       • ... and if anyone wants to submit objections please do it now!
> > (2) MAILING LIST(s)
> >       • Create a "pgrouting-dev" mailing list for further discussion and
> also for PSC votes (I don't think we need another mailing list for PSC)
> >       • Personally I would like to move mailing lists to lists.osgeo.org,
> because it takes responability for mainteneance from Orkney and I know that
> it was tricky to setup for the specific environment. Nevetheless it should
> be possible to copy the existing archive of "pgrouting-users" to the new
> place.
> > (3) 1.04 RELEASE
> > As some warming up the new PSC could vote for a bugfix release. For this
> release I wouldn't follow something like the OpenLayers release process yet,
> because I think "trunk" has been tested now for more than a year ;-)
> >
> > (4) SVN REPOSITORY
> >       • Install "Submin" to administer user accounts (very convenient
> tool)
> >       • Discuss repository structure and access rights
> >       • Discuss about the pgRouting "tools" (I'm not so happy with the
> current structure)
> >       • Move ot OSGeo infrastructore or not? Maybe pgRouting project can
> run on some dedicated virtual server, that more people can have access to.
> > (5) TRAC
> >       • From time to time TRAC spam is quite annoying. Find a solution
> for this.
> >       • Discussion/Forum is quite popular and more used than mailing
> lists from users, but automatic notification doesn't work (anymore)
> >       • Not sure if we could keep Discussion/Forum extension on OSGeo
> server
> >       • Not sure how difficult moving TRAC would be
> >       • TRAC is not good in multilingual support (for example Redmine
> does much better and also provides subprojects). Is everyone happy with
> TRAC?
> >       • Move to OSGeo infrastructore or not? Maybe pgRouting project can
> run on some dedicated virtual server, that more people can have access to.
> > (6) WRITE RFC(s)
> > I think for discussions about new development, roadmap, documentation,
> etc. we should then use the pgrouting-dev mailing list and write RFC's as
> Stephen proposed.
> >
> > Any thoughts?
> >
> > Daniel
> >
>
>


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