[pgrouting-users] PSC - what next?

[Daniel Kastl]

To add some additional information regarding OSGeo Labs:
http://lists.osgeo.org/pipermail/incubator/2010-March/001454.html

Daniel


2010/3/29 Daniel Kastl <daniel at georepublic.de>

> Mori-san,
>
> As far as I know it is no problem to use OSGeo infrastructure, especially
> mailing lists are quite popular. There are many projects that are not OSGeo
> projects, that have a mailing list there. The latest one I saw was
> "MapProxy".
>
> I think pgRouting is the perfect OSGeo Labs project:
> http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/OSGeo_Labs
> pgRouting is actually listed there already (OK, I put it there some time
> ago ;-)
>
> Incubation process lacks of available mentors, so if small projects don't
> make a big noise, not much will happen (my personal impression from
> following the incubation list).
>
> Regarding OSGeo infrastructure I'm not sure it's that convenient and I
> don't know how easy a project can get access to install the "Forum"
> extension on TRAC for example. For SVN and mailing lists I don't see a big
> problem though.
>
> My alternative idea was to run a "pgRouting only" virtual machine on a
> dedicated server, so nobody needs to get access to a company network to fix
> server troubles. Another virtual machine could be for demos then and be
> rolled back to a previous snapshot if something goes wrong.
>
> But I agree with you that it's more a burden to host some open source
> project on company servers and keep it running.
>
> Daniel
>
>
>
> 2010/3/29 Toru Mori（森亮） <moritoru at orkney.co.jp>
>
> Hi list,
>>
>> I think It is good idea to move the infrastructures form Orkney to OSGeo.
>> It will reduce time and resources for maintenance and maybe give us
>> reliability.
>>
>> However, does OSGeo accept to host pgRouting which has not been an
>> official project yet?
>> I know the case of GeoServer that has been using their infrastructures for
>> the mailing lists.
>> http://geoserver.org/display/GEOS/Mailing+Lists
>> Only one exception is the Japanese language mailing list, which is the
>> latest one and on the OSGeo server just after GeoServer has accepted as one
>> of the OSGeo incubation projects.
>>
>> So before starting the discussion, we should know if OSGeo hosts our
>> project without being accepted as the incubation.
>> Also we should discuss pgRouting should become OSGeo project first. I
>> thinks this has not been decided yet so far.
>>
>> Toru Mori
>>
>>
>> On 2010/03/29, at 21:16, Daniel Kastl wrote:
>>
>> > Hi Stephen and others,
>> >
>> > Sorry for the late answer, but I was "offline" for a few days ;-)
>> >
>> > First some updates on the designated initial PSC members, who are right
>> now:
>> >       • Anton Patrushev
>> >       • Christian Gonzalez
>> >       • Ema Miyawaki
>> >       • Frédéric Junod
>> >       • Stephen Woodbridge
>> >       • Venkatesh Raghavan
>> > Also updated on the wiki http://pgrouting.postlbs.org/wiki/PSC
>> > There I removed the paragraph about IRC as well. (
>> http://pgrouting.postlbs.org/wiki/PSC?action=history)
>> >
>> > I didn't read yet the details about OpenLayers or Mapserver PSC process.
>> Is there any important difference? Any advantage of one of them?
>> >
>> > In my opinion we could get started like this:
>> >
>> > (1) CONFIRM INITIAL PSC
>> >       • I would like to hear from each PSC member on this list what they
>> think about the PSC guideline and if they are (still) willing to join (at
>> least a +1 would be nice ;-)
>> >       • ... and if anyone wants to submit objections please do it now!
>> > (2) MAILING LIST(s)
>> >       • Create a "pgrouting-dev" mailing list for further discussion and
>> also for PSC votes (I don't think we need another mailing list for PSC)
>> >       • Personally I would like to move mailing lists to
>> lists.osgeo.org, because it takes responability for mainteneance from
>> Orkney and I know that it was tricky to setup for the specific environment.
>> Nevetheless it should be possible to copy the existing archive of
>> "pgrouting-users" to the new place.
>> > (3) 1.04 RELEASE
>> > As some warming up the new PSC could vote for a bugfix release. For this
>> release I wouldn't follow something like the OpenLayers release process yet,
>> because I think "trunk" has been tested now for more than a year ;-)
>> >
>> > (4) SVN REPOSITORY
>> >       • Install "Submin" to administer user accounts (very convenient
>> tool)
>> >       • Discuss repository structure and access rights
>> >       • Discuss about the pgRouting "tools" (I'm not so happy with the
>> current structure)
>> >       • Move ot OSGeo infrastructore or not? Maybe pgRouting project can
>> run on some dedicated virtual server, that more people can have access to.
>> > (5) TRAC
>> >       • From time to time TRAC spam is quite annoying. Find a solution
>> for this.
>> >       • Discussion/Forum is quite popular and more used than mailing
>> lists from users, but automatic notification doesn't work (anymore)
>> >       • Not sure if we could keep Discussion/Forum extension on OSGeo
>> server
>> >       • Not sure how difficult moving TRAC would be
>> >       • TRAC is not good in multilingual support (for example Redmine
>> does much better and also provides subprojects). Is everyone happy with
>> TRAC?
>> >       • Move to OSGeo infrastructore or not? Maybe pgRouting project can
>> run on some dedicated virtual server, that more people can have access to.
>> > (6) WRITE RFC(s)
>> > I think for discussions about new development, roadmap, documentation,
>> etc. we should then use the pgrouting-dev mailing list and write RFC's as
>> Stephen proposed.
>> >
>> > Any thoughts?
>> >
>> > Daniel
>> >
>>
>>
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