[pgrouting-users] PSC - what next?
Toru Mori（森亮）
moritoru at orkney.co.jp
Mon Mar 29 21:16:10 EDT 2010
Daniel,
Thanks for the information!
So we don't have problems with using OSGeo infrastructure and I think nobody has objection to using it.
By the way, servers at Orkney are moving to a datacenter in Yokohama. We have already set a dozen machines there. Most of all the current (= "old") equipments will be replaced to new ones in several months. Machines for pgRouting is up to the community. We can still provide them for the community.
Mori
On 2010/03/29, at 23:54, Daniel Kastl wrote:
> Mori-san,
>
> As far as I know it is no problem to use OSGeo infrastructure, especially mailing lists are quite popular. There are many projects that are not OSGeo projects, that have a mailing list there. The latest one I saw was "MapProxy".
>
> I think pgRouting is the perfect OSGeo Labs project: http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/OSGeo_Labs
> pgRouting is actually listed there already (OK, I put it there some time ago ;-)
>
> Incubation process lacks of available mentors, so if small projects don't make a big noise, not much will happen (my personal impression from following the incubation list).
>
> Regarding OSGeo infrastructure I'm not sure it's that convenient and I don't know how easy a project can get access to install the "Forum" extension on TRAC for example. For SVN and mailing lists I don't see a big problem though.
>
> My alternative idea was to run a "pgRouting only" virtual machine on a dedicated server, so nobody needs to get access to a company network to fix server troubles. Another virtual machine could be for demos then and be rolled back to a previous snapshot if something goes wrong.
>
> But I agree with you that it's more a burden to host some open source project on company servers and keep it running.
>
> Daniel
>
>
>
> 2010/3/29 Toru Mori（森亮） <moritoru at orkney.co.jp>
> Hi list,
>
> I think It is good idea to move the infrastructures form Orkney to OSGeo. It will reduce time and resources for maintenance and maybe give us reliability.
>
> However, does OSGeo accept to host pgRouting which has not been an official project yet?
> I know the case of GeoServer that has been using their infrastructures for the mailing lists.
> http://geoserver.org/display/GEOS/Mailing+Lists
> Only one exception is the Japanese language mailing list, which is the latest one and on the OSGeo server just after GeoServer has accepted as one of the OSGeo incubation projects.
>
> So before starting the discussion, we should know if OSGeo hosts our project without being accepted as the incubation.
> Also we should discuss pgRouting should become OSGeo project first. I thinks this has not been decided yet so far.
>
> Toru Mori
>
>
> On 2010/03/29, at 21:16, Daniel Kastl wrote:
>
> > Hi Stephen and others,
> >
> > Sorry for the late answer, but I was "offline" for a few days ;-)
> >
> > First some updates on the designated initial PSC members, who are right now:
> > • Anton Patrushev
> > • Christian Gonzalez
> > • Ema Miyawaki
> > • Frédéric Junod
> > • Stephen Woodbridge
> > • Venkatesh Raghavan
> > Also updated on the wiki http://pgrouting.postlbs.org/wiki/PSC
> > There I removed the paragraph about IRC as well. (http://pgrouting.postlbs.org/wiki/PSC?action=history)
> >
> > I didn't read yet the details about OpenLayers or Mapserver PSC process. Is there any important difference? Any advantage of one of them?
> >
> > In my opinion we could get started like this:
> >
> > (1) CONFIRM INITIAL PSC
> > • I would like to hear from each PSC member on this list what they think about the PSC guideline and if they are (still) willing to join (at least a +1 would be nice ;-)
> > • ... and if anyone wants to submit objections please do it now!
> > (2) MAILING LIST(s)
> > • Create a "pgrouting-dev" mailing list for further discussion and also for PSC votes (I don't think we need another mailing list for PSC)
> > • Personally I would like to move mailing lists to lists.osgeo.org, because it takes responability for mainteneance from Orkney and I know that it was tricky to setup for the specific environment. Nevetheless it should be possible to copy the existing archive of "pgrouting-users" to the new place.
> > (3) 1.04 RELEASE
> > As some warming up the new PSC could vote for a bugfix release. For this release I wouldn't follow something like the OpenLayers release process yet, because I think "trunk" has been tested now for more than a year ;-)
> >
> > (4) SVN REPOSITORY
> > • Install "Submin" to administer user accounts (very convenient tool)
> > • Discuss repository structure and access rights
> > • Discuss about the pgRouting "tools" (I'm not so happy with the current structure)
> > • Move ot OSGeo infrastructore or not? Maybe pgRouting project can run on some dedicated virtual server, that more people can have access to.
> > (5) TRAC
> > • From time to time TRAC spam is quite annoying. Find a solution for this.
> > • Discussion/Forum is quite popular and more used than mailing lists from users, but automatic notification doesn't work (anymore)
> > • Not sure if we could keep Discussion/Forum extension on OSGeo server
> > • Not sure how difficult moving TRAC would be
> > • TRAC is not good in multilingual support (for example Redmine does much better and also provides subprojects). Is everyone happy with TRAC?
> > • Move to OSGeo infrastructore or not? Maybe pgRouting project can run on some dedicated virtual server, that more people can have access to.
> > (6) WRITE RFC(s)
> > I think for discussions about new development, roadmap, documentation, etc. we should then use the pgrouting-dev mailing list and write RFC's as Stephen proposed.
> >
> > Any thoughts?
> >
> > Daniel
> >
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