[postgis-devel] RFC versus Direct Action

Paul Ramsey pramsey at cleverelephant.ca
Tue Feb 8 14:06:00 PST 2022



> On Feb 8, 2022, at 1:05 PM, Regina Obe <lr at pcorp.us> wrote:
> 
>> I think there are places where an RFC is called for, and the spatial ref
> sys view
>> work is one where it would have been much appreciated.
> [Regina Obe] 
> I whole-heartedly agree on this. 
> So maybe we should just shelf this for now.
> 
> And I'll create a proper RFC for this so we can review the RFC and various
> alternatives and issues with it.
> 
> 
>> I do not
>> particularly enjoy being the "bad guy" and the guy who is saying "yes, you
>> have spatial a couple weeks sweating over this but I still think it's a
> bad idea
>> and you shouldn't have" is more-or-less definitionally the bad guy. 
> [Regina Obe] 
> 
> You are not a bad guy or rather you make a great bad guy :)
> A guy with strong opinions and I like that a lot, so don't stop being a bad
> guy. 
> Sorry if I came on a little strong.
> 
> Just tired of this whole limbo with spatial_ref_sys and what SRIDs am I
> allowed to use for my entries.
> 
>> A role I
>> would not have had to take on, had this been brought forward as an RFC
>> prior to dumping a bunch of effort into it. I also would not have to make
> this
>> my sudden priority, and presumably now generate alternate code in order to
>> match up to Sandro's "yes, you have an idea, but I have code" position in
> this
>> tete a tete.
>> 
>> https://lists.osgeo.org/pipermail/postgis-devel/2022-February/029433.html
>> 
> [Regina Obe] 
> Note to strk -- Paul is right, you get a little excited and move forward
> without people getting a chance to say "Slow down, not sure this is a good
> idea".
> 
> I do appreciate the fully worked out code that we could easily exercise (a
> bit easier than an RFC) but do feel sad you put so much work into it :(
> 
>> It's too late to wind back the situation, since the time has already been
> spent
>> and the layout is as it is, but I do feel unnecessarily backed into a
> corner and
>> throwing up my hands and saying "oh, heck, whatever" seems like a non-
>> optimal place for me to be vis a vis the project, psychologically.
>> 
>> P.
> [Regina Obe] 
> Sorry for forcing you into a corner :(
> 
> I'll try to be more laid back.
> 
> A Very apologetic Regina

Thank you Regina, I very very much appreciate it.
I think we can work out something that keeps SRS more up-to-date, and really the question is just how much tradeoff we want to accept on bell and whistles and perfection over all potential cases versus minimizing churn and maximizing simplicity.

P.





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