[postgis-users] Proposal to drop support for PostgreSQL 8.3 inPostGIS 2.0

Ron M rm_postgis at cheapcomplexdevices.com
Thu Oct 28 14:20:55 PDT 2010


Just one more data point from one more user.

Paragon Corporation wrote:
> Now you are just a debian user concerned about stability.
> 
> Why wouldn't you just use this great PostGIS 1.3.3 version  (which isn't
> even the latest stable release of 1.3)
> 
> http://packages.debian.org/lenny/postgresql-8.3-postgis
> 
> Instead of trying PostGIS 2.0

+1.

When I'm getting Postgres from the OS vendor, I want to
get add-ons from the OS vendor as well - since I assume they
tested those exact combinations reasonably extensively - including
any tweaks they may have made to the upstream installs.

When I want to install the latest postgis from source, it's really
no additional burden for me to install postgres from source at
the same time.

Have there been any requests from the OS packagers/vendors
wanting to combine PostGIS2.0 with PostgreSQL8.3?    If not,
I really can't imagine many people users running that combination.






> What makes you trust the stability of 10 PostGIS developers with only 1
> build bot
> 
> Over the work of 
> Over 100 PostgreSQL  developers with more buildbots than I can count and
> more 1000 times the user base of PostGIS
> 
> Frankly when my PostgreSQL  crashes (not to be mean) -- its my PostGIS
> that's crashing it, and rarely anything to do with PostgreSQL.
> 
> --
> By the way I got two notes off list
> One from Simon Greener -- and he made a point that I feel most painfully
> aware of too.  As a consultant dealing with IT departments who are primarily
> concerned with stability.
> They will not install anything that is not in a stable port and if they do
> it takes months to get to that point.  Which means there is 0 chance in hell
> of them installing PostGIS 2.0 without some major tooth pulling.  
> 
> Of course once you've got them in the dentist chair and pulled the first
> tooth.  Its easier to pull the other tooth.  once you've got them coming out
> of the stable branch because your application absolutely needs this -- what
> better way of getting nice SQL features to boot than to say -- the thing you
> need won't work on that lower end thing they''ve currently got.
>  
> If you are running an ArcSDE 9.4 shop -- there is 0 chance of you running
> even PostGIS 1.5 even because ESRI doesn't support PostGIS 1.5 even for
> ArcGIS 10  (and in 10 will be supporting 8.4 and PostGIS 1.4)
> 
> http://resources.arcgis.com/content/arcsde/10.0/postgresql-system-requiremen
> ts
> 
> So my point is -- you concerns for stability that would be preventing you
> from running PostgreSQL 8.4 or above would also be preventing you from
> running PostGIS 2.0.
> 
> I also disagree with looking at now.  IT changes dramatically in 6 monhts
> time frame.
> 
> Thanks,
> Regina
> 
> 
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