[Proj] PROJ PSC

Jeff McKenna jmckenna at gatewaygeomatics.com
Fri Jun 1 05:22:36 PDT 2018


+1 for Kurt   !!

-jeff



On 2018-06-01 9:00 AM, Kurt Schwehr wrote:
> I'm definitely interested.  Thank you for the nomination!
> 
> On Fri, Jun 1, 2018 at 1:22 AM, Kristian Evers <kreve at sdfe.dk 
> <mailto:kreve at sdfe.dk>> wrote:
> 
>     > The PSC names I listed were chosen because they have
>     > been active recently (well, except Frank, who provides institutional
>     > memory).
> 
>     Based on the activity criteria, I think it is only fair to include
>     Kurt Schwehr
>     In the PSC as well. Over the last 6 to 12 months Kurt has done a
>     tremendous job on improving the robustness of the PROJ code base
>     as well taking on the dirty job of improving the overall state of the
>     code.
>     So if Kurt is interested, I would like to nominate him as a
>     member of the bootstrapped PSC.
> 
>     /Kristian
> 
> 
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>     På vegne af Howard Butler
>      > Sendt: 1. juni 2018 00:01
>      > Til: Frank Warmerdam <warmerdam at pobox.com
>     <mailto:warmerdam at pobox.com>>; PROJ.4 and general
>      > Projections Discussions <proj at lists.maptools.org
>     <mailto:proj at lists.maptools.org>>
>      > Emne: Re: [Proj] PROJ PSC
>      >
>      > Greg,
>      >
>      >
>      > PROJ has never operated under the aegis of anything really. The
>     MetaCRS
>      > attempt tried to rally SRS-related software projects under an
>     umbrella
>      > within OSGeo, but as I've mentioned on the MetaCRS list [1], it is a
>      > failure as an organizing principle for the software projects. We are
>      > ostensibly required to vote within MetaCRS to agree on a release,
>     but it
>      > is unfortunate make-work that doesn't really protect the release,
>     and it
>      > is a motion put forward to an uninterested voting base. I think it is
>      > time to dissolve MetaCRS as an authority at least as it pertains to
>      > releases and software project management. It's still a great mailing
>      > list with access to real expertise on coordinate systems (that
>     overlaps
>      > with this mailing list, but not entirely).
>      >
>      >
>      > PROJ needs some kind of body for release organization and technical
>      > dispute resolution (we've never had one). A PSC will be a better
>      > governance situation than exists now for PROJ. The PSC approach,
>      > pioneered by Frank in the MapServer and GDAL communities, would work
>      > very well for PROJ. The PSC names I listed were chosen because
>     they have
>      > been active recently (well, except Frank, who provides institutional
>      > memory).
>      >
>      >
>      > After Frank moved on, I stepped forward as the PROJ maintainer, but I
>      > know very little about coordinate systems. I just tried to keep the
>      > lights on and sweep the (documentation) floor. Thankfully, Kristian,
>      > Charles, Kurt, and Thomas have stepped forward to takeover and
>     provide
>      > technical and academic heft to really improve things. Their PROJ
>     efforts
>      > are the basis of the GDAL SRS Barn Raising effort
>     https://gdalbarn.com,
>      > and without their contributions, there wouldn't be any traffic about
>      > code styles, testing frameworks, or object hierarchies. PROJ has seen
>      > more activity in the past year than it had in the previous
>     fifteen. Its
>      > renewal has been fantastic to watch.
>      >
>      >
>      >
>      >
>      > Howard
>      >
>      >
>      >
>      > [1]
>     https://lists.osgeo.org/pipermail/metacrs/2017-August/000956.html
>     <https://lists.osgeo.org/pipermail/metacrs/2017-August/000956.html>
>      >
>      >
>      >
>      > On 5/31/18 4:26 PM, Frank Warmerdam wrote:
>      > > Howard,
>      > >
>      > > I can imagine a few ways forward:
>      > >
>      > >  - We could just add the named contributors to the MetaCRS PSC
>     and it
>      > might
>      > > be that only those interested in PROJ.4 vote on PROJ.4 proposals.
>      > >  - We could form a PROJ PSC and have the MetaCRS PSC authorize
>     it to
>      > make
>      > > decisions about PROJ.4 on a slightly less officious basis than
>     normal PSC
>      > > rules.
>      > >  - We might want to consider the MetaCRS "experiment" to have
>     run it's
>      > > course and not worked out particularly well and dissolve
>     MetaCRS other
>      > than
>      > > perhaps as a potentially mailing list for coordination of
>     related projects,
>      > > and proceed with PROJ.4 as an independent project with it's own
>     PSC, etc.
>      > >
>      > > I'd be happy enough with the third approach.  MetaCRS was mostly my
>      > > brainchild and I'm willing to agree it is not really a
>     functioning thing.
>      > >
>      > > Best regards,
>      > > Frank
>      > >
>      > >
>      > > On Thu, May 31, 2018 at 2:06 PM, Greg Troxel <gdt at lexort.com
>     <mailto:gdt at lexort.com>> wrote:
>      > >
>      > >> Howard Butler <howard at hobu.co <mailto:howard at hobu.co>> writes:
>      > >>
>      > >>> In the interest of self determination, I propose that PROJ
>     form a PSC
>      > >>> with the following membership:
>      > >> No objection to the concept, but this raises the issue of
>     whether the
>      > >> project is operating under the aegis of charitable nonprofit
>      > >> corporation.  I admit to having no clue about that before, and
>     I'm not
>      > >> saying it's a big deal, but clarity is good.
>      > >>
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