[Qgis-community-team] [OSGeoLive 13.0] QGIS 3.4 overview and quickstart overhaul

[Cameron Shorter]

Hi Belinda and Liam,
It was great to have breakfast with you this morning and discuss how you
might want to get involved in SeasonOfDocs.
As promised, here is an email thread with ideas so far about updating
Quickstarts/Overviews for QGIS which will be a really good starting point
for you both (with your QGIS background).

The How to Get started with OSGeoLive docs is halfway through transitioning
from an old system to new (sorry for the mess):
Old: https://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/OSGeoLive_AddProject#Documentation
New: https://trac.osgeo.org/osgeolive/wiki/How%20to%20document%20a%20project

If you get stuck, which is highly likely, feel free to ask one of us CCed.

Good luck, Cameron

On Sat, 25 May 2019 at 06:20, Cameron Shorter <cameron.shorter at gmail.com>
wrote:

> Hi Harrissou, my comments are inline:
>
> On Fri, 24 May 2019 at 19:48, DelazJ <delazj at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Hi all,
>>
>> Nicolas, what's the deadline for the release?
>>
>
> Our OSGeoLive schedule is here:
> https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1kO6zzmLFfprZGgp5x7Sjwi-EVN6NTGDR4KXvFVtNpR0/edit?hl=en_GB&hl=en_GB#gid=0
> English versions of Project Overviews and Quickstarts are to be updated
> and reviewed by  9 July 2019
>
> I think you hit two items that are not covered even in our official
>> documentation so tackling these would benefit to both docs:
>> - the Overview: we have a list of features at [1] but it's also not fully
>> updated at the moment [2}
>> - the Quickstart (something we don't have): but we neither finished
>> updating our screenshots [3] - some might already be available to pick in
>> the repo though.
>>
>> What I want to say, refering to our own undone changes, is that this is
>> an opportunity to fix two important features for both projects.
>>
>
> I agree Harrissou, aligning QGIS and OSGeoLive core documentation would be
> excellent. It is something I'm hoping we can trail in our SeasonOfDocs
> initiative with QGIS and GeoNetwork, and later introduce to other OSGeo
> projects.
>
>
>> And afaics it doesn't require specific advanced skills, so I'd invite
>> people willing to help in documentation to give it a try. Could be a good
>> starting point. The visual changelogs might also help to find some main
>> features [4].
>>
>
> Yes, these are less complicated tasks and a good starting point. I've been
> learning from tech writers that we should be careful to avoid words like
> "easy", or "just do ....". Tasks which developers find easy (like using git
> or RST) have a high barrier-to-entry for experienced writers (such as an
> ex-English teacher who came to our last FOSS4G community day).
>
> Our Howto-write-OSGeoLive docs have become harder to follow as we have
> been automating our build process. (I'm hoping we will improve this as part
> of SeasonOfDocs). Links from: https://trac.osgeo.org/osgeolive
>
>
>> About OSGeoLive, am I right that there's no html doc online and if i want
>> to view the docs I have to either run the dvd/usb/VM or build it myself as
>> explained in the ReadMe [5]?
>>
>
> You can see docs from our latest release here:
> http://live.osgeo.org/en/overview/overview.html
>
> Regarding the quickstart (*talking about the concept of quickstart since
>> I haven't seen the OSGeoLive's one and don't know if it duplicates things
>> we already have*), I wonder if it's not something we can consider having
>> next or within QGIS docs. There might be ways to bridge both resources,
>> actually just display on QGIS Docs website the quickstart from
>> OSGeoLive-Docs. Sphinx-gurus? And that would help QGIS documenters be more
>> concerned (talking about me at least) with OSGeoLive docs, bridge the
>> projects and there might be more advantages.
>>
>
> Yes, I really like this idea, and would be interested to see how we can
> pursue this.
>
>
>>
>> Regards,
>> Harrissou
>>
>> [1] https://docs.qgis.org/3.4/en/docs/user_manual/preamble/features.html
>> [2] https://github.com/qgis/QGIS-Documentation/issues/2286
>> [3] https://github.com/qgis/QGIS-Documentation/issues/2441
>> [4] https://qgis.org/en/site/forusers/visualchangelogs.html
>> [5]
>> https://github.com/OSGeo/OSGeoLive-doc#building-osgeolive-documentation
>>
>> Le jeu. 23 mai 2019 à 09:33, Nicolas Roelandt <roelandtn.pro at gmail.com>
>> a écrit :
>>
>>> Hi dear QGIS community members,
>>>
>>> OSGeoLive has reached alpha2 stage with QGIS 3.4.6 installed. [1]
>>> OSGeoLive 12.0 was with QGIS 2.18 and the current documentation was
>>> written for this version.
>>>
>>> At OSGeoLive, we think that the new version of QGIS is a good
>>> opportunity to rework on the QGIS overview [2] and quickstart [3] and
>>> reflects its new functionnalities. So we are looking for volunteers to help
>>> us improve the docs and take new screenshots.
>>>
>>> You can work directly on the files or interact in the dedicated ticket
>>> [4] or within our mailing list [5].
>>>
>>> Thanks for your help from the OSGeoLive Community.
>>>
>>> Yours sincerely,
>>>
>>> Nicolas Roelandt
>>> OSGeoLive PSC
>>> OSGeo-fr board
>>> OSGeo charter member
>>>
>>> [1]
>>> http://osgeo-org.1560.x6.nabble.com/OSGeoLive-13-0-status-alpha2-td5405559.html
>>> [2]
>>> https://github.com/OSGeo/OSGeoLive-doc/blob/master/doc/overview/qgis_overview.rst
>>> [3]
>>> https://github.com/OSGeo/OSGeoLive-doc/blob/master/doc/quickstart/qgis_quickstart.rst
>>> [4] https://trac.osgeo.org/osgeolive/ticket/2136#ticket
>>> [5] osgeolive at lists.osgeo.org
>>> <https://twitter.com/RoelandtN42>
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