[Qgis-developer] Re: [Qgis-user] feedback/bug report from a qgis course based on qgis-dev

[Giovanni Manghi]

Hi Andreas,
your are good points obviously. I know that is a little risky, but from
my point of view it was almost a forced choice. First the trunk has too
many new neat features that would be a shame not showing them, and
second the 1.3 version has a few nasty bugs. In particular I remember
one in vector symbology (qgis crashes). I can live with occasional
crashes and problems in brand new features (and I guess/hope that our
course attendees do understand it) but I cannot show a program that
crashes while doing a simple symbology operation. Until now users are
pretty impressed with the trunk version and common thing they say is
that they didn't imagined that was possibile to do that much with Qgis.

Cheers!

-- Giovanni --




On Sun, 2009-11-15 at 15:25 +0100, Andreas Neumann wrote:
> Hi Giovanni,y
> 
> Thank you for reporting the bugs/problems and sharing your experience 
> with the QGIS course.
> 
> I wonder, however, if it is wise to teach a course with a trunk build? 
> While trunk builds are reasonably stable, the trunk currently 
> considerably changed and changes, both feature-wise and with the UI. It 
> may be strange if you teach your users based on trunk - tomorrow they 
> download QGIS-trunk and they find a different UI. Probably not the best 
> impression. Also, the trunk is definitely not polished yet and currently 
> can contain some inconsistencies.
> 
> So in my opinion it would be wiser to use QGIS mimas for courses or 
> introducing new users - or at least very, very clearly state that the 
> trunk is for development work not meant for production and changes on a 
> almost daily basis.
> 
> Some of my users use the trunk version as well (because we urgently need 
> some of the new features), but I very carefully check a nightly build 
> before upgrading the machines of my colleagues for not running into 
> unexpected surprises.
> 
> Just my opinion,
> Andreas
> 
> Giovanni Manghi wrote:
> > Hi all,
> >
> > we are in the middle of a course with a group of biologists and I would
> > like to leave here some feedback.
> >
> > Attendees are using qgis trunk on both windows (xp, vista, seven) and
> > ubuntu linux.
> >
> > Let me know if I have to open tickets for the problems here reported.
> >
> > *) under windows, the postgis manager plugin still have the bug reported
> > here
> >
> > https://trac.osgeo.org/qgis/ticket/1911
> >
> > *) on some pcs (both linux and windows) the right-ctrl key doesn't works
> > while using the "node tool"
> >
> > *) the "simplify feature" tool freezes/crashes windows (xp,vista,seven)
> > if used on small *simple* polygons in a shapefile defined in a projected
> > (20790) CRS and otfr on.
> >
> > *) the "split feature" tool randomly freezes/crashes qgis on both linux
> > and windows when used on the very same features (in a projected -20790-
> > CRS and otfr on).
> >
> > *) the "add part" tool randomly freezes/crashes qgis on both linux and
> > windows when used on the very same features (in a projected -20790- CRS
> > and otfr on).
> >
> > *) the "delete part" tool works only if ones clicks on a node of the
> > part to be deleted. If the part is a polygon and one clicks on it, the
> > tool doesn't works. Same conditions as above. 
> >
> > *) when zooming a lot to see a node of a polygon (same conditions as
> > above), qgis takes a lot to get trough it and ultimately crashes (seg
> > fault) on both linux and windows.
> >
> > *) when using the "identify" tool the windows that pop-up is not the
> > normal one, but the one that now I believe is called "view feature
> > form". When identifying features randomly appears the standard dialog
> > window. Happens on both linux and windows.
> >
> >
> >
> > For the third straight course it was possible to show that reporting
> > bugs do actually works and works really fast. At the end of the first
> > day I reported a problem with the label UI and the day after it was
> > already fixed (thanks Tim!)!.
> >
> >
> > Saluti
> >
> > -- Giovanni --
> >
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