[Qgis-developer] Native file dialog bugs and the new Save As Vector functionality.

[Marco Hugentobler]

Hi Borys, John

For me on KDE, saving a file to an OGR format works as it should (not only in 
shp), remembering the last filter does not work.

An additional advantage of native dialogs is that it is possible to access 
network drives on windows. For many users, this is a crucial point.

However, I agree with the useability concerns of Borys. So user option seems 
good to me (default to non-native dialogs?)

Regards,
Marco




Am Freitag, 19. März 2010 22.51:46 schrieb John C. Tull:
> Hi Borys,
> 
> You've made some good points. Seems likely something that the broader
>  community should weigh in on.
> 
> From my perspective, I agree that the multi-dialog window thing is unusual.
>  On the other hand, the problems that are created from the qt dialogs on my
>  OS are more annoying. Perhaps this needs to be a user-configurable option.
>  Have both types of dialog available based on a choice in the application
>  options. Is this feasible?
> 
> John
> 
> On Mar 19, 2010, at 12:59 PM, Borys Jurgiel wrote:
> > Dnia piątek, 19 marca 2010 o 16:53:27 John C. Tull napisał(a):
> >> Hi Borys,
> >>
> >> On OS X, the native dialog seems to do what it should. Saving a layer to
> >> an ogr format brings that same format as the default the next time you
> >> choose save as. I am not sure of other problems that you are
> >> experiencing on kde, but things seem fine on OS X.
> >
> > Hi John,
> >
> > I'm pretty sure it's related only to the KDE4 native dialog. Other
> > problems are: the last used directory is set as the initial file name,
> > instead of entering into it and the save button is labeled "Open".
> >
> >> I would recommend any change away from the native dialog be specific to
> >> kde. The non-native dialogs on OS X are very awkward and clunky. In
> >> fact, it would be great to make  an effort to bring native dialog
> >> support to all existing ui elements (native in the application as well
> >> as plugins).
> >
> > The KDE problem has just provoked me to think about choosing one of them.
> > I admit the native dialogs are far prettier, but are less usable. The
> > main problem is native dialogs can't contain encoding and CRS selectors.
> > The present two-step saving is very inconvenient for me (I assume in most
> > cases you don't change the layer CRS) and there is an urgent need of
> > implementing some kind of encoding selector. Adding a third step wolud be
> > quite ridiculous, but for non-English users a possibility of switching
> > between utf and cp encoding is essential.
> >
> > The same problem is with opening a vector layer - I hate that additional
> > dialog (forgive mi guys :D ).
> >
> > I believe we should stick with the encodingFileDialog at least as long as
> > ESRI uses cp encodings :( I know we use the native dialogs in a few
> > places, but it is one of the most painful problems my users meet. It
> > makes QGIS just incompatible with shapefiles from ESRI.
> >
> > B.
> 
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