[Qgis-developer] Clarifying access to non geographical datas

[Tim Sutton]

Hi

On Tue, Jul 10, 2012 at 3:47 PM, Andreas Neumann <a.neumann at carto.net> wrote:
> I agree. I always hide this "Manage Layers" toolbar when I start from a new
> QGIS installation. I use the menu instead. The toolbar wastes just too much
> screen space in my opinion. Maybe we should hide it by default?
>
> I like the idea of having a drop-down button. It could be included in the
> other toolbar called "File". It would fit in this toolbar since it deals
> with saving, loading and file references.
>

For me it makes no sense to have the dropdown - you need to do two
clicks to use an icon so we may as well just remove the manage layers
toolbar completely and let users use the menu rather (same amount of
mouse clicks plus bigger and easier target to click with the mouse).

Ultimately the unified add data dialog as presented by Nathan is what
we want though.

Regards

Tim

> Just my two cents,
> Andreas
>
>
> On Tue, 10 Jul 2012 14:57:02 +0200, Vincent Picavet wrote:
>>
>> Hi,
>>
>> Le mardi 10 juillet 2012 14:47:19, Etienne Tourigny a écrit :
>>>
>>> Now there are 10 buttons in the Layers Toolbar (8 of which are for
>>> adding new layers) - which I think is a lot of clutter. I personally
>>> shrink that toolbar to just a few icons.
>>
>> Having icons for opening layers of different kind is really useless, just
>> leading the user to have to think about the format he wants to load before
>> taking action. That's not a clear way of doing things, most of the
>> time a user
>> do not know nothing about data format, and even not the difference between
>> raster and vector. They want to «Add data» that's all.
>> So let's kill those buttons and replace them with a single «add data» one
>> !
>> My 2 cents
>> Vincent
>>
>>>
>>> Etienne
>>>
>>> On Tue, Jul 10, 2012 at 9:40 AM, Nathan Woodrow <madmanwoo at gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>> > We tried the merge into one button idea once and lets just say it
>>> > didn't go down too well with the users :)
>>> >
>>> > - Nathan
>>> >
>>> > On Tue, Jul 10, 2012 at 10:38 PM, Etienne Tourigny
>>> >
>>> > <etourigny.dev at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> >> I thinks it's a great idea also.
>>> >>
>>> >> Here is a simple modification (screenshot attached) which could keep
>>> >> the buttons in the toolbar but merge them into one pop-up button. This
>>> >> saves a lot of space and keeps existing functionality.  The icon is
>>> >> not great, just a first stab.
>>> >>
>>> >> Nathan's browser button could be placed next to that.
>>> >>
>>> >> Etienne
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >> On Tue, Jul 10, 2012 at 8:48 AM, Vincent Picavet
>>> >>
>>> >> <vincent.ml at oslandia.com> wrote:
>>> >>> Hi Nathan,
>>> >>> You're my hero !
>>> >>> I dream of a unified single «Add data» button / menu entry at night !
>>> >>> Users don't care about «add shapefile» «add raster» «add
>>> >>> anotherformatentry». They just want to add data to the map. Let's
>>> >>> rationalize all that.
>>> >>>
>>> >>> Le mardi 10 juillet 2012 12:47:11, Nathan Woodrow a écrit :
>>> >>>> I agree that the current solution is not ideal.  I did some mockups
>>> >>>> of
>>> >>>> an idea I had during the last hackfest.  Which can be found here[0]
>>> >>>> and here[1].  It would unify all the open logic into a single dialog
>>> >>>> and save space on the tool bar.
>>> >>>
>>> >>> The design you propose seems really nice. Reusing the browser is a
>>> >>> really good idea.
>>> >>> Let's do it !
>>> >>> Vincent
>>> >>>
>>> >>>> [0] http://dl.dropbox.com/u/6170988/open%20dialog%20with%20csv.png
>>> >>>> [1] http://dl.dropbox.com/u/6170988/filter.png
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>> - Nathan
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>> On Tue, Jul 10, 2012 at 7:32 PM, Giovanni Manghi
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>> <giovanni.manghi at faunalia.pt> wrote:
>>> >>>> > On Fri, 2012-07-06 at 07:31 -0700, haubourg wrote:
>>> >>>> >> Hi all, i would like to have your feedbacks on that point, before
>>> >>>> >> asking new features.
>>> >>>> >
>>> >>>> > I agree, an explicit "add table" button should be added.
>>> >>>> >
>>> >>>> > cheers
>>> >>>> >
>>> >>>> > -- Giovanni --
>>> >>>> >
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