[Qgis-developer] [Qgis-tr] size of translations, use a distinct repo?

[Werner Macho]

Hi!

I am sorry for not realizing that :(
But from now on it should be much better ..
Other thing is that I think about only updating all translations in
source only every two weeks (or probably only in front of a release)
as the translation should be done in transifex anyway. And only
updating the english source in transifex (and master of course).
Pros: even smaller and less commits,
Cons: Some translators often like to see "how it looks like" and I
understand that from time to time you want to see if "it fits".

What do you think about that?

regards
Werner

On Thu, Oct 30, 2014 at 4:28 PM, Denis Rouzaud <denis.rouzaud at gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi Werner,
>
> Thanks for this, indeed last translation commit is indeed much smaller!!!!
> Less than 1k lines while it used to be about 50k before.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Denis
>
> On 29.10.2014 20:49, Werner Macho wrote:
>>
>> Hi!
>>
>> I added the suggestion from jef and tried the new produced ts files in
>> linguist and transifex without any problems ..
>> So I decided to update everything again (with strings and transifex
>> update) ..
>> ts files should now have no location inside any more ..
>> I hope that shrinks down the size from now on.
>>
>> regards
>> Werner
>>
>> On Wed, Oct 29, 2014 at 2:56 PM, Stott, James <fmrojst at fylkesmannen.no>
>> wrote:
>>>
>>> As a slight side point, according to transifex it looks like we could
>>> have 13 fully translated languages for the GUI by the time 2.6 is released
>>> (13 languages are on 99% or more). 15 languages are over 95%. This is
>>> excellent news.
>>>
>>> Is it something we should publise, maybe add to the visual changelog?
>>>
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>>> Emne: Re: [Qgis-tr] [Qgis-developer] size of translations, use a distinct
>>> repo?
>>>
>>> hmm - ok ..
>>> Then I am going to give it a try without location and see if there are
>>> any problems with transifex or linguist ..
>>> If not - I also think that way is perfect ..
>>>
>>> regards
>>> Werner
>>>
>>>
>>> On Wed, Oct 29, 2014 at 2:11 PM, Denis Rouzaud <denis.rouzaud at gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> On 29.10.2014 14:06, Werner Macho wrote:
>>>>>
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>>>>> Good idea,
>>>>> if its really translation that causes the growth we should do
>>>>> everything to avoid that.
>>>>
>>>> As Jurgen noticed, there are some useless changes in the ts files:
>>>>
>>>>       <message>
>>>> -        <location filename="../src/core/qgscontexthelp_texts.cpp"
>>>> line="327"/>
>>>> +        <location filename="../src/core/qgscontexthelp_texts.cpp"
>>>> line="319"/>
>>>>
>>>> if there are lines removed/added in the source file, this will cause
>>>> changes in the translation file.
>>>> Jurgen suggested to remove these tags "location filename" which would
>>>> improve a lot.
>>>>>
>>>>> Is there any way to "shrink" the already existing repo?
>>>>> At one point I thought about zipping the ts files - but if there is a
>>>>> better way .. good!
>>>>> I always wondered why the whole translations file has to be changed
>>>>> whenever there are only some small changes ..
>>>>> moving the translation in it's own github repository: hmm - I don't
>>>>> know if thats easily possible.. but I am also willing to try it if it
>>>>> helps the source code to stay clean.
>>>>
>>>> I don't see any reason why it wouldn't be possible.
>>>> git submodules would be pretty useful for this matter.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> But again - anyway to shrink the already existing source code?
>>>>
>>>> As far as I know, you can't shrink existing repo without destroying
>>>> the history.
>>>>>
>>>>> I don't mind about loosing track of translation changes.
>>>>>
>>>>> regards
>>>>> Werner
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On 10/29/2014 12:15 PM, Jürgen E. Fischer wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi Denis,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Wed, 29. Oct 2014 at 11:08:16 +0100, Denis Rouzaud wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Any thoughts?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I guess this is just due to the "location filename" stuff.  That
>>>>>> often causes massive change in the ts files, because lines were
>>>>>> added or removed from the source files - even if there isn't even a
>>>>>> changed translation.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I think that is not used at all for transifex and it's not that
>>>>>> important to have in linguist either.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> So instead of inventing something new, all it takes might be to add
>>>>>> "-locations none" to our lupdate call, reduce the size of the .ts
>>>>>> files a lot (in one huge commit) and avoid useless tracking of
>>>>>> location changes in the future.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Objections?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Jürgen
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
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