[Qgis-developer] Sandboxing python

[Nathan Woodrow]

Yes I have read it, however we don't run on PyPy, we use CPython.

On Mon, Oct 17, 2016 at 8:06 PM, <geodrinx at gmail.com> wrote:

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> Inviato da iPhone
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> Il giorno 17 ott 2016, alle ore 11:19, Nathan Woodrow <madmanwoo at gmail.com>
> ha scritto:
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> For context from here: https://lwn.net/Articles/574215/
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> "I now agree that putting a sandbox in CPython is the wrong design. There
> are too many ways to escape the untrusted namespace using the various
> introspection features of the Python language. To guarantee the [safety] of
> a security product, the code should be [carefully] audited and the code to
> review must be as small as possible. Using pysandbox, the "code" is the
> whole Python core which is a really huge code base. For example, the Python
> and Objects directories of Python 3.4 contain more than 126,000 lines of C
> code.
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> The security of pysandbox is the security of its weakest part. A single
> bug is enough to escape the whole sandbox."
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> Correct.  In fact I am talking about this other:
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> pypy.org  and its sandboxing, that is:
> http://doc.pypy.org/en/latest/sandbox.html?highlight=Sandboxing
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> that reports the interesting issues you can have with other solutions, as
> CPython, for example.
> Do you have read it ?  If not, good reading  :)
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> On Mon, Oct 17, 2016 at 7:17 PM, Nathan Woodrow <madmanwoo at gmail.com>
> wrote:
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>> Honestly, this is getting tiresome.
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>> If you don't like the approval processes that we have in place currently
>> you can create a new plugin repo, it's just an XML file exposed via
>> webserver, there are docs around for it.
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>> You can give this URL to people and they can install your plugins via
>> that.
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>> If you don't want to do that, then you will have to go through the
>> approval process.  I'm sure there are reasons it took longer than normal,
>> maybe review those first.
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>> If you want to follow the sandboxed Python route and see how far you get
>> fine, however again I suspect you are in for a long road given the complex
>> nature of that and you would still have to
>> be able to support what we can in core, etc.
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>> - Nathan
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>> On Mon, Oct 17, 2016 at 6:31 PM, Geo DrinX <geodrinx at gmail.com> wrote:
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>>> 2016-10-17 10:19 GMT+02:00 Nathan Woodrow <madmanwoo at gmail.com>:
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>>>> Qgis uses CPython. You also have to sandbox Qt, so I suspect you are
>>>> running into a lot of dead ends.
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>>> Thank you for the suggestion.  We will see who is moving in dead ends.
>>> :)
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>>> I am the crow's nest of the ship and I am experiencing the arrival of
>>> the iceberg.
>>> And I hear the orchestra playing :)
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>>> Best regards and wishes for a safe journey.   ;)
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>>>
>>> Geo
>>>
>>> PS:  and then if you want to exit from the one direction maze you are
>>> going,  here I am.
>>> PPS:  in the meantime, take a look of this competition:
>>> https://goo.gl/WR8LVF
>>>
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