[Qgis-developer] Are there plans to create a unique "Add layer" tool?

Tue May 2 07:46:50 PDT 2017

Hi Alexandre, 

hm - I don't think we can allow more docking space for additional panels
taking more away from the  

Assuming you work on a small Netbook screen: if you have the layer panel
on the left and the styling panel on the right, you have a few pixels
left for the map itself. If you add another column for the browser
panel, you won't even have enough space for all the panels. 

Now you could say, one shouldn't use a Netbook for QGIS - but how many
times did you have to present on a video projector that only supports
1024x768, or even worse 800x600. It would be nightmare if there is an
additional panel. 

Andreas 

On 2017-05-02 16:10, Alexandre Neto wrote:

> Looking into the proposal, makes me wonder if it would be possible to add the Browser panel (that will need to be big enough for the dialogs) to the right of the Layers Panel (assuming the default). That would imply a new area to allow docking panels. 
> 
> Alexandre Neto <senhor.neto at gmail.com> escreveu no dia segunda, 1/05/2017 às 00:02: 
> Great, thanks for the update!  
> 
> Anita Graser <anitagraser at gmx.at> escreveu no dia domingo, 30/04/2017 às 21:19: 
> 
> Hi, 
> 
> We just finished our discussion on the unified add layer dialog and we are optimistic that it will make its way into 3.0. You can find a short summary of the planned steps at the end of the doc: 
> 
> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1aMX9jOfl10q8oETRzOHSHnRpHCc7UJ1dDnCCq3VyTAY/edit?usp=sharing 
> 
> Please feel free to ask if there are any questions. 
> 
> Best wishes, 
> Anita 
> 
> On Fri, Apr 28, 2017 at 1:28 PM, Stéphane Henriod <stephanebek at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Very good! 
> 
> Looking forward to hearing the outcome of these discussions! 
> 
> Cheers and thanks for your support here 
> 
> Stéphane 
> 
> "When you travel, remember that a foreign country is not designed to make you comfortable. It is designed to make its own people comfortable." -- Clifton Fadiman
> 
> 2017-04-27 22:54 GMT+06:00 Alexandre Neto <senhor.neto at gmail.com>:
> 
> Hi, 
> 
> Some of my colleagues will be in Essen for QGIS Developers meeting. They will bring this up, and try to get the opinion of other developers. I'm sure everyone there will be interested in contributing with ideas for it.
> 
> So, let's wait for now.
> 
> Thanks for your work. 
> 
> Stéphane Henriod <stephanebek at gmail.com> escreveu no dia quinta, 27/04/2017 às 09:42: Hi all 
> 
> I would be more than happy to help push this new feature forward but I am not really sure what is needed now? 
> 
> Alexandre, I think you mentioned that your company might be interested to implement this unique "Add layer" button. Does the Gdoc now contain sufficient information for you to move on and identify what can realistically be done? Or is there a need for more polishing?
> 
> Thanks in advance! 
> 
> Stéphane 
> 
> Le vendredi 21 avril 2017, Stéphane Henriod <stephanebek at gmail.com> a écrit :
> 
> Done! 
> 
> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1aMX9jOfl10q8oETRzOHSHnRpHCc7UJ1dDnCCq3VyTAY/edit?usp=sharing 
> 
> "When you travel, remember that a foreign country is not designed to make you comfortable. It is designed to make its own people comfortable." -- Clifton Fadiman
> 
> 2017-04-20 14:47 GMT+06:00 Alexandre Neto <senhor.neto at gmail.com>:
> 
> Fine with me.  
> 
> Stéphane Henriod <stephanebek at gmail.com> escreveu no dia terça, 18/04/2017 às 05:46: Hi all 
> 
> Harrissou has quite intensively re-organised the doc, which is now, IMO, much clearer. Thanks for that! 
> 
> But lots of changes are in "suggestion mode". I'd like to accept all those changes to increase the clarity and readability. Any objection on this? 
> 
> Thanks and cheers 
> 
> Stéphane 
> 
> Le mercredi 12 avril 2017, Alexandre Neto <senhor.neto at gmail.com> a écrit :
> 
> Hi Stéphane, 
> 
> I believe it's a great starting point, very complete (I would not remember/consider some types of data).
> 
> We still need to fill the second page and discuss the possible UI/UX implementation. Then, we will need some developers (I'm not a developer) to consider the requests and filter what would be hard or impossible to tackle. 
> 
> Our best chance to have this implemented is by doing baby steps. I would not consider more data format/providers than the ones we have in the manage layers toolbar in this first phase. 
> 
> Thanks! 
> 
> Stéphane Henriod <stephanebek at gmail.com> escreveu no dia terça, 11/04/2017 às 12:57: Hi Alexandre 
> 
> this is indeed great! 
> 
> Is the gdoc as it is now helpful enough for you to design a possible implementation? Or, if not, what other inputs / comments would be necessary? 
> 
> Cheers 
> 
> Stéphane 
> 
> Le lundi 10 avril 2017, Alexandre Neto <senhor.neto at gmail.com> a écrit :
> 
> Hello all,
> 
> At Boundless we are planning to put some development time in this "unified add layer" button/feature. As others already did, our idea was to use the browser panel as a base for replacing most of the buttons and add any capabilities that are still missing.
> 
> So, let's work together to find what are those missing pieces, and how it would be the best way to implement it. We will put our thoughts in the Google document. As soon we have it stabilized we can start creating a QEP for it.
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Alexandre Neto 
> 
> Stéphane Henriod <stephanebek at gmail.com> escreveu no dia quinta, 6/04/2017 às 12:14: Thanks Harrissou! 
> 
> I took the liberty to remove the first table (that I created) and to leave only yours. It is more complete anyway 
> 
> Cheers 
> 
> Stéphane 
> 
> Le mercredi 5 avril 2017, DelazJ <delazj at gmail.com> a écrit :
> 
> I took the liberty to do some changes to the doc (especially add a new table with more detailed features on the existing tools + comments). It's supposed to replace the table already drafted but I didn't go so far without a review. 
> 
> 2017-04-05 10:36 GMT+02:00 DelazJ <delazj at gmail.com>:
> 
> Hi Stéphane, actually there's no more UX team (list). UX mailing list has been shut down months ago because it used to refer to dev list for most of decisions/advices so UX matters are now discussed either in the dev mailing list (we maybe can keep this thread) or, I guess until QGIS3 release, in the qgis3_UIX_discussion repository.
> 
> Regards,
> Harrissou 
> 
> 2017-04-05 10:19 GMT+02:00 Stéphane Henriod <stephanebek at gmail.com>: 
> 
> Hi all 
> 
> there have been a few additions in the Gdoc already (not sure from whom) but I don't know if this is already sufficient for developers to take this up? 
> 
> Also, I am not sure how to reach out to the UX team. Through a separate mailing list? Or is it sufficient to have it here https://github.com/qgis/qgis3_UIX_discussion/issues/1 ? 
> 
> Cheer 
> 
> Stéphane 
> 
> Le mardi 4 avril 2017, Stéphane Henriod <stephanebek at gmail.com> a écrit :
> 
> Thanks Nyall! 
> 
> Here I just created a Gdoc to collect info mentioned in your points 1-4 + a: 
> 
> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1aMX9jOfl10q8oETRzOHSHnRpHCc7UJ1dDnCCq3VyTAY/edit?usp=sharing 
> 
> All interested, feel free to contribute, I might not have the full overview 
> 
> Thanks and cheers 
> 
> Stéphane 
> 
> "When you travel, remember that a foreign country is not designed to make you comfortable. It is designed to make its own people comfortable." -- Clifton Fadiman
> 
> 2017-04-04 13:53 GMT+06:00 Nyall Dawson <nyall.dawson at gmail.com>:
> On 4 April 2017 at 17:46, Stéphane Henriod <stephanebek at gmail.com> wrote:
>> Thanks a lot Anita for the info!
>> 
>> I re-located the issue: http://hub.qgis.org/issues/9451
>> 
>> Not sure though if this will make it alive again. Let's see if this seems to
>> be a priority for enough users...
>> 
> 
> I'd say a good plan to move this forward would be to:
> 
> 1. conduct a thorough survey of what's available via the individual
> add vector layer dialogs vs what's currently available in the browser
> 2. rank each of the missing settings vs whether or not they are still required
> 3. file issues for these missing settings
> 4. ...and get these fixed/implemented
> 
> a. While this is underway I'd also suggest the UX team could test and
> evaluate Anita's plugin to identify whether the browser alone is a
> sufficient replacement or whether some tweaks would be required to
> make it a suitable replacement without any loss of "user friendliness"
> 
> 1,2,3 and (a) don't require any development experience, so would be a
> great project for any interested user to undertake. I suspect 4
> wouldn't be much work for a developer either after all this groundwork
> is done.
> 
> Nyall

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