[QGIS-Developer] [Qgis-developer] Are there plans to create a unique "Add layer" tool?
Andreas Neumann
a.neumann at carto.net
Tue May 2 11:59:49 PDT 2017
If you find a way to offer good options for both low-res and high-res
screens by optionally docking in parallel I would of course be
supportive ;-)
Andreas
On 02.05.2017 17:46, Alexandre Neto wrote:
> I see your point, but I was not asking it for be the default behavior.
>
> That might not work for all users, specially those with small screen,
> but for others with big high resolution screens, may look strange to
> have a bunch of tools stacked and tabbed, with still so much space in
> the screen to use.
>
> Also, keeping the exact number of space used, people could move style
> dock right next to the layers panel.
>
> Anyway, no big deal, just me wondering about it.
>
> Régis Haubourg <regis.haubourg at gmail.com
> <mailto:regis.haubourg at gmail.com>> escreveu no dia terça, 2/05/2017 às
> 16:21:
>
> Hi, we already can put the dock panels as tabs in the same dock as
> the layer tree, this is convenient to me in general for the browser.
> Agreed with Andréa, we can't afford to use more space for the
> docks.. even for medium size screens.
> Régis
>
> 2017-05-02 16:46 GMT+02:00 Neumann, Andreas <a.neumann at carto.net
> <mailto:a.neumann at carto.net>>:
>
> Hi Alexandre,
>
> hm - I don't think we can allow more docking space for
> additional panels taking more away from the
>
> Assuming you work on a small Netbook screen: if you have the
> layer panel on the left and the styling panel on the right,
> you have a few pixels left for the map itself. If you add
> another column for the browser panel, you won't even have
> enough space for all the panels.
>
> Now you could say, one shouldn't use a Netbook for QGIS - but
> how many times did you have to present on a video projector
> that only supports 1024x768, or even worse 800x600. It would
> be nightmare if there is an additional panel.
>
> Andreas
>
> On 2017-05-02 16:10, Alexandre Neto wrote:
>
>> Looking into the proposal, makes me wonder if it would be
>> possible to add the Browser panel (that will need to be big
>> enough for the dialogs) to the right of the Layers Panel
>> (assuming the default). That would imply a new area to allow
>> docking panels.
>>
>> Alexandre Neto <senhor.neto at gmail.com
>> <mailto:senhor.neto at gmail.com>> escreveu no dia segunda,
>> 1/05/2017 às 00:02:
>>
>> Great, thanks for the update!
>>
>> Anita Graser <anitagraser at gmx.at
>> <mailto:anitagraser at gmx.at>> escreveu no dia domingo,
>> 30/04/2017 às 21:19:
>>
>> Hi,
>> We just finished our discussion on the unified add
>> layer dialog and we are optimistic that it will make
>> its way into 3.0. You can find a short summary of the
>> planned steps at the end of the doc:
>> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1aMX9jOfl10q8oETRzOHSHnRpHCc7UJ1dDnCCq3VyTAY/edit?usp=sharing
>> Please feel free to ask if there are any questions.
>> Best wishes,
>> Anita
>>
>> On Fri, Apr 28, 2017 at 1:28 PM, Stéphane Henriod
>> <stephanebek at gmail.com
>> <mailto:stephanebek at gmail.com>> wrote:
>>
>> Very good!
>> Looking forward to hearing the outcome of these
>> discussions!
>> Cheers and thanks for your support here
>> Stéphane
>>
>> "When you travel, remember that a foreign country
>> is not designed to make you comfortable. It is
>> designed to make its own people comfortable." --
>> Clifton Fadiman
>> 2017-04-27 22:54 GMT+06:00 Alexandre Neto
>> <senhor.neto at gmail.com
>> <mailto:senhor.neto at gmail.com>>:
>>
>> Hi,
>>
>> Some of my colleagues will be in Essen for
>> QGIS Developers meeting. They will bring this
>> up, and try to get the opinion of other
>> developers. I'm sure everyone there will be
>> interested in contributing with ideas for it.
>>
>> So, let's wait for now.
>>
>> Thanks for your work.
>>
>> Stéphane Henriod <stephanebek at gmail.com
>> <mailto:stephanebek at gmail.com>> escreveu no
>> dia quinta, 27/04/2017 às 09:42:
>>
>> Hi all
>> I would be more than happy to help push
>> this new feature forward but I am not
>> really sure what is needed now?
>> Alexandre, I think you mentioned that
>> your company might be interested to
>> implement this unique "Add layer" button.
>> Does the Gdoc now contain sufficient
>> information for you to move on and
>> identify what can realistically be done?
>> Or is there a need for more polishing?
>> Thanks in advance!
>> Stéphane
>>
>>
>> Le vendredi 21 avril 2017, Stéphane
>> Henriod <stephanebek at gmail.com
>> <mailto:stephanebek at gmail.com>> a écrit :
>>
>> Done!
>> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1aMX9jOfl10q8oETRzOHSHnRpHCc7UJ1dDnCCq3VyTAY/edit?usp=sharing
>>
>> "When you travel, remember that a
>> foreign country is not designed to
>> make you comfortable. It is designed
>> to make its own people comfortable."
>> -- Clifton Fadiman
>>
>> 2017-04-20 14:47 GMT+06:00 Alexandre
>> Neto <senhor.neto at gmail.com>:
>>
>> Fine with me.
>>
>> Stéphane Henriod
>> <stephanebek at gmail.com> escreveu
>> no dia terça, 18/04/2017 às 05:46:
>>
>> Hi all
>> Harrissou has quite
>> intensively re-organised the
>> doc, which is now, IMO, much
>> clearer. Thanks for that!
>> But lots of changes are in
>> "suggestion mode". I'd like
>> to accept all those changes
>> to increase the clarity and
>> readability. Any objection on
>> this?
>> Thanks and cheers
>> Stéphane
>>
>> Le mercredi 12 avril 2017,
>> Alexandre Neto
>> <senhor.neto at gmail.com> a écrit :
>>
>> Hi Stéphane,
>> I believe it's a great
>> starting point, very
>> complete (I would not
>> remember/consider some
>> types of data).
>>
>> We still need to fill the
>> second page and discuss
>> the possible UI/UX
>> implementation. Then, we
>> will need some developers
>> (I'm not a developer) to
>> consider the requests and
>> filter what would be hard
>> or impossible to tackle.
>> Our best chance to have
>> this implemented is by
>> doing baby steps. I would
>> not consider more data
>> format/providers than the
>> ones we have in the
>> manage layers toolbar in
>> this first phase.
>> Thanks!
>>
>> Stéphane Henriod
>> <stephanebek at gmail.com>
>> escreveu no dia terça,
>> 11/04/2017 às 12:57:
>>
>> Hi Alexandre
>> this is indeed great!
>> Is the gdoc as it is
>> now helpful enough
>> for you to design a
>> possible
>> implementation? Or,
>> if not, what other
>> inputs / comments
>> would be necessary?
>> Cheers
>>
>> Stéphane
>>
>>
>> Le lundi 10 avril
>> 2017, Alexandre Neto
>> <senhor.neto at gmail.com>
>> a écrit :
>>
>> Hello all,
>>
>> At Boundless we
>> are planning to
>> put some
>> development time
>> in this "unified
>> add layer"
>> button/feature.
>> As others already
>> did, our idea was
>> to use the
>> browser panel as
>> a base for
>> replacing most of
>> the buttons and
>> add any
>> capabilities that
>> are still missing.
>>
>> So, let's work
>> together to find
>> what are those
>> missing pieces,
>> and how it would
>> be the best way
>> to implement it.
>> We will put our
>> thoughts in the
>> Google document.
>> As soon we have
>> it stabilized we
>> can start
>> creating a QEP
>> for it.
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Alexandre Neto
>>
>> Stéphane Henriod
>> <stephanebek at gmail.com>
>> escreveu no dia
>> quinta, 6/04/2017
>> às 12:14:
>>
>> Thanks
>> Harrissou!
>> I took the
>> liberty to
>> remove the
>> first table
>> (that I
>> created) and
>> to leave only
>> yours. It is
>> more complete
>> anyway
>> Cheers
>>
>> Stéphane
>>
>>
>> Le mercredi 5
>> avril 2017,
>> DelazJ
>> <delazj at gmail.com>
>> a écrit :
>>
>> I took
>> the
>> liberty
>> to do
>> some
>> changes
>> to the
>> doc
>> (especially
>> add a new
>> table
>> with more
>> detailed
>> features
>> on the
>> existing
>> tools +
>> comments).
>> It's
>> supposed
>> to
>> replace
>> the table
>> already
>> drafted
>> but I
>> didn't go
>> so far
>> without a
>> review.
>>
>> 2017-04-05
>> 10:36
>> GMT+02:00
>> DelazJ
>> <delazj at gmail.com>:
>>
>> Hi
>> Stéphane,
>> actually
>> there's
>> no
>> more
>> UX
>> team
>> (list).
>> UX
>> mailing
>> list
>> has
>> been
>> shut
>> down
>> months
>> ago
>> because
>> it
>> used
>> to
>> refer
>> to
>> dev
>> list
>> for
>> most
>> of
>> decisions/advices
>> so UX
>> matters
>> are
>> now
>> discussed
>> either
>> in
>> the
>> dev
>> mailing
>> list
>> (we
>> maybe
>> can
>> keep
>> this
>> thread)
>> or, I
>> guess
>> until
>> QGIS3
>> release,
>> in
>> the
>> qgis3_UIX_discussion
>> repository.
>>
>>
>> Regards,
>> Harrissou
>>
>> 2017-04-05
>> 10:19
>> GMT+02:00
>> Stéphane
>> Henriod
>> <stephanebek at gmail.com>:
>>
>> Hi
>> all
>> there
>> have
>> been
>> a
>> few
>> additions
>> in
>> the
>> Gdoc
>> already
>> (not
>> sure
>> from
>> whom)
>> but
>> I
>> don't
>> know
>> if
>> this
>> is
>> already
>> sufficient
>> for
>> developers
>> to
>> take
>> this
>> up?
>> Also,
>> I
>> am
>> not
>> sure
>> how
>> to
>> reach
>> out
>> to
>> the
>> UX
>> team.
>> Through
>> a
>> separate
>> mailing
>> list?
>> Or
>> is
>> it
>> sufficient
>> to
>> have
>> it
>> here
>> https://github.com/qgis/qgis3_UIX_discussion/issues/1 ?
>> Cheer
>>
>> Stéphane
>>
>> Le mardi
>> 4
>> avril
>> 2017,
>> Stéphane
>> Henriod
>> <stephanebek at gmail.com>
>> a
>> écrit :
>>
>> Thanks
>> Nyall!
>>
>> Here
>> I
>> just
>> created
>> a
>> Gdoc
>> to
>> collect
>> info
>> mentioned
>> in
>> your
>> points
>> 1-4
>> +
>> a:
>> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1aMX9jOfl10q8oETRzOHSHnRpHCc7UJ1dDnCCq3VyTAY/edit?usp=sharing
>> All
>> interested,
>> feel
>> free
>> to
>> contribute,
>> I
>> might
>> not
>> have
>> the
>> full
>> overview
>> Thanks
>> and
>> cheers
>>
>> Stéphane
>>
>> "When
>> you
>> travel,
>> remember
>> that
>> a
>> foreign
>> country
>> is
>> not
>> designed
>> to
>> make
>> you
>> comfortable.
>> It
>> is
>> designed
>> to
>> make
>> its
>> own
>> people
>> comfortable."
>> --
>> Clifton
>> Fadiman
>>
>> 2017-04-04
>> 13:53
>> GMT+06:00
>> Nyall
>> Dawson
>> <nyall.dawson at gmail.com>:
>>
>> On
>> 4
>> April
>> 2017
>> at
>> 17:46,
>> Stéphane
>> Henriod
>> <stephanebek at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>> >
>> Thanks
>> a
>> lot
>> Anita
>> for
>> the
>> info!
>> >
>> >
>> I
>> re-located
>> the
>> issue:
>> http://hub.qgis.org/issues/9451
>> >
>> >
>> Not
>> sure
>> though
>> if
>> this
>> will
>> make
>> it
>> alive
>> again.
>> Let's
>> see
>> if
>> this
>> seems
>> to
>> >
>> be
>> a
>> priority
>> for
>> enough
>> users...
>> >
>>
>> I'd
>> say
>> a
>> good
>> plan
>> to
>> move
>> this
>> forward
>> would
>> be
>> to:
>>
>> 1.
>> conduct
>> a
>> thorough
>> survey
>> of
>> what's
>> available
>> via
>> the
>> individual
>> add
>> vector
>> layer
>> dialogs
>> vs
>> what's
>> currently
>> available
>> in
>> the
>> browser
>> 2.
>> rank
>> each
>> of
>> the
>> missing
>> settings
>> vs
>> whether
>> or
>> not
>> they
>> are
>> still
>> required
>> 3.
>> file
>> issues
>> for
>> these
>> missing
>> settings
>> 4.
>> ...and
>> get
>> these
>> fixed/implemented
>>
>> a.
>> While
>> this
>> is
>> underway
>> I'd
>> also
>> suggest
>> the
>> UX
>> team
>> could
>> test
>> and
>> evaluate
>> Anita's
>> plugin
>> to
>> identify
>> whether
>> the
>> browser
>> alone
>> is
>> a
>> sufficient
>> replacement
>> or
>> whether
>> some
>> tweaks
>> would
>> be
>> required
>> to
>> make
>> it
>> a
>> suitable
>> replacement
>> without
>> any
>> loss
>> of
>> "user
>> friendliness"
>>
>> 1,2,3
>> and
>> (a)
>> don't
>> require
>> any
>> development
>> experience,
>> so
>> would
>> be
>> a
>> great
>> project
>> for
>> any
>> interested
>> user
>> to
>> undertake.
>> I
>> suspect
>> 4
>> wouldn't
>> be
>> much
>> work
>> for
>> a
>> developer
>> either
>> after
>> all
>> this
>> groundwork
>> is
>> done.
>>
>> Nyall
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> "When
>> you
>> travel,
>> remember
>> that
>> a
>> foreign
>> country
>> is
>> not
>> designed
>> to
>> make
>> you
>> comfortable.
>> It
>> is
>> designed
>> to
>> make
>> its
>> own
>> people
>> comfortable."
>> --
>> Clifton
>> Fadiman
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>> --
>> "When you
>> travel,
>> remember that
>> a foreign
>> country is
>> not designed
>> to make you
>> comfortable.
>> It is
>> designed to
>> make its own
>> people
>> comfortable."
>> -- Clifton
>> Fadiman
>>
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>>
>>
>> --
>> "When you travel,
>> remember that a
>> foreign country is
>> not designed to make
>> you comfortable. It
>> is designed to make
>> its own people
>> comfortable." --
>> Clifton Fadiman
>>
>> --
>> Alexandre Neto
>> ---------------------
>> @AlexNetoGeo
>> http://sigsemgrilhetas.wordpress.com
>> http://gisunchained.wordpress.com
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> "When you travel, remember
>> that a foreign country is not
>> designed to make you
>> comfortable. It is designed
>> to make its own people
>> comfortable." -- Clifton Fadiman
>>
>> --
>> Alexandre Neto
>> ---------------------
>> @AlexNetoGeo
>> http://sigsemgrilhetas.wordpress.com
>> http://gisunchained.wordpress.com
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> "When you travel, remember that a foreign
>> country is not designed to make you
>> comfortable. It is designed to make its
>> own people comfortable." -- Clifton Fadiman
>>
>> --
>> Alexandre Neto
>> ---------------------
>> @AlexNetoGeo
>> http://sigsemgrilhetas.wordpress.com
>> http://gisunchained.wordpress.com
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