[QGIS-Developer] News panel?

[Nyall Dawson]

On Mon, 28 Oct 2019 at 23:10, Alessandro Pasotti <apasotti at gmail.com> wrote:
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> On Mon, Oct 28, 2019 at 2:03 PM Tim Sutton <tim at kartoza.com> wrote:
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>> Hi
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>> Oh but that little X is for the news item itself. It means ‘I’ve read this, don’t show it to me again’ if I understand Alessandro’s design intent correctly….
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> I don't know: it's not my design :) I did the server part only.

Sorry, delayed response here.

Yes, Tim is correct -- the X dismisses individual news items only.
Then intention here is that users can dismiss items as they read them,
or leave them to later to read. If a news item expires (it has an
expiry date set on the server side) it will automatically self-dismiss
after this time (e.g. no point in leaving an entry for an event which
has occurred, even if the user hasn't dismissed this item themselves).

The panel will **only** show if there's something to show. Otherwise,
the project templates panel gets the space. I don't see value in
showing an empty section, and:

1. showing an empty news feed section will make us appear a
"ghost"/"dying" project
2. showing the panel only when there's news means that users get a
immediate "oh something is different here" moment on launching qgis,
and are more likely to read the news item (vs a panel which is always
shown, usually empty, and which sometimes has content) (that's my gut
feeling at least, I'm not a UX expert!)

Nyall







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>> Tim
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>> On 28 Oct 2019, at 12:38, Andreas Neumann <a.neumann at carto.net> wrote:
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>> Hi,
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>> Hm - maybe there is a difference on "how you turn the news panel off". I tried with a new empty profile and it is the same behaviour like on my default profile. Once I press the little "x" icon on the top right of the news panel, there is no way to turn it back on.
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>> On the other hand, if you go to "Settings" --> "Options" --> "General" and use that option to toggle visibility of the News Panel, then I can really turn it on and off as expected.
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>> So, the culprit seems to be the littel "x" Icon on the top right of the News Panel. Once, you use, that, the news panel is gone for good. No easy way to get it back.
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>> Andreas
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>> On 2019-10-28 12:12, Tim Sutton wrote:
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>> Hi
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>> I just did a fresh install of QGIS 3.10 and it works for me. I will tried toggling the feed off, closing QGIS, opening it, toggling, on, restarting. All worked fine for me (on macOS). Maybe it is a Linux specific issue?
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>> Andreas maybe you can try manually editing settings in your profile to see if it comes back when you remove the flag there?
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>> Regards
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>> Tim
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>> On 28 Oct 2019, at 10:58, Andreas Neumann <a.neumann at carto.net> wrote:
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>> Hm - I seem to have the same issue. Once the "News feed" is disabled I can't seem to get it back. Regardless of the setting in the "Options" --> "General" --> "Show QGIS news feed on welcome pate" dialogue.
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>> That part of the start screen never comes back.
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>> There is something odd with the news feed section on the start screen.
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>> Andreas
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>> On 2019-10-28 11:44, Ismail Sunni wrote:
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>> Hi Tim,
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>> I have restarted my QGIS 3.10 several times, but I still couldn't see the Welcome Message or the news panel. I have enabled "Show QGIS news feed on welcome page" and set the Welcome Page on the project launch.
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>> I only see the "recent project" and "project template" panel in the beginning.
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>> Thanks!
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>> Best regards.
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>> On Mon, Oct 28, 2019 at 10:53 AM Tim Sutton <tim at kartoza.com> wrote:
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>> Hi Folks
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>> Please restart your QGIS - Andreas and I have added something. He is making a few tweaks, any suggestions welcome....
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>> Regards
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>> Tim
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>> On 28 Oct 2019, at 07:26, Paolo Cavallini <cavallini at faunalia.it> wrote:
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>> Hi all,
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>> On 10/27/19 11:53 PM, Nyall Dawson wrote:
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>> On Sun, 27 Oct 2019 at 03:40, Jorge Gustavo Rocha <jgr at di.uminho.pt> wrote:
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>> Hi Raymond,
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>> You can confirm it by yourself. Just open https://feed.qgis.org/ and you
>> will see the entire news feed.
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>> I think we should publish a short "welcome to QGIS 3.10" article
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>> show on first load?
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>> fully agreed. Tim already prepared something, probably good to start
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