[QGIS-Developer] QGIS-Developer Digest, Vol 174, Issue 34

Paolo Cavallini cavallini at faunalia.it
Sat Apr 18 05:35:53 PDT 2020


Hi Mats,
right, I did not touch that section, as I do not have experience on
Windows. Thanks for checking.
Cheers.

Il 18/04/20 14:15, Mats Elfström ha scritto:
> Re: Server manual
> I noticed that the instructions need to be completed for Windows
> environments, most important for Windows server environments.
> Regards, Mats.E
> 
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>     Message: 2
>     Date: Sat, 18 Apr 2020 12:51:09 +0200
>     From: Paolo Cavallini <cavallini at faunalia.it
>     <mailto:cavallini at faunalia.it>>
>     To: qgis-developer at lists.osgeo.org
>     <mailto:qgis-developer at lists.osgeo.org>
>     Subject: Re: [QGIS-Developer] Server manual
>     Message-ID: <ccecbdbd-a60e-5df1-17e1-a69c11b2874a at faunalia.it
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>     Hi all,
>     I have reviewed
>     docs/user_manual/working_with_ogc/server/getting_started.rst
>     I could not test all the combination, so an independent test, better if
>     on a fresh machine, will be appreciated.
>     Also help on the best way to configure a `qgis-server.service`` and
>     ``spawn-fcgi.service`` will be useful.
>     Thanks in advance.
>     Cheers.
> 
>     Il 17/04/20 14:59, Paolo Cavallini ha scritto:
>     > AFAICT, it seems better to incorporate content from the Training
>     Manual
>     > into the User Manual, rather than the reverse. In this case, however,
>     > the TM section would become useless.
>     > I'm waiting for an authoritative response before proceeding.
>     > Cheers.
>     >
>     > Il 17/04/20 14:45, Paolo Cavallini ha scritto:
>     >> Hi all,
>     >> I noticed that there is anple overlap and duplication between the
>     user
>     >> manual:
>     >>
>     https://docs.qgis.org/3.10/en/docs/user_manual/working_with_ogc/server/
>     >> and the training manual:
>     >>
>     https://docs.qgis.org/3.10/en/docs/training_manual/qgis_server/index.html#training-qgis-server
>     >> I think this should be cleaned up, as is confusing: those who are
>     more
>     >> familiar with the layout of manuals can please direct me?
>     >> Thanks.
>     >>
>     >> Il 17/04/20 14:25, Paolo Cavallini ha scritto:
>     >>> Thanks everybody for the feedback.
>     >>> I could then:
>     >>> * create a new file (let's call it server_new.rst)
>     >>> * migrate and reorganize the content
>     >>> * when ready, with all your contributes, we can replace the existing
>     >>> ones, splitting as appropriate.
>     >>> How does it sound?
>     >>> (Ale: yes, I agree, the new standalone should be added).
>     >>> Cheers.
>     >>>
>     >>> Il 17/04/20 14:11, David Marteau ha scritto:
>     >>>>
>     >>>> Le 17/04/2020 à 13:44, Alessandro Pasotti a écrit :
>     >>>>> Should we also add the new standalone development server to
>     the manual?
>     >>>>
>     >>>> IMHO we should document the various ways to setup a server: fcgi,
>     >>>> development, python...
>     >>>>
>     >>>>
>     >>>>>
>     >>>>> On Fri, Apr 17, 2020 at 1:23 PM Etienne Trimaille
>     >>>>> <etienne.trimaille at gmail.com
>     <mailto:etienne.trimaille at gmail.com>> wrote:
>     >>>>>> Hi,
>     >>>>>>
>     >>>>>> Yes it's not easy, between what is the minimum to do, what is
>     highly recommended, between Apache/NGinx etc.
>     >>>>>> So I think you can go ahead, we will follow your PR.
>     >>>>>>
>     >>>>>> I'm also keeping some notes, I will try to make a PR next
>     week to incorporate them.
>     >>>>>>
>     >>>>>> Le ven. 17 avr. 2020 à 13:17, David Marteau
>     <dmarteau at 3liz.com <mailto:dmarteau at 3liz.com>> a écrit :
>     >>>>>>> Hi Paolo
>     >>>>>>>
>     >>>>>>> No problem for helping you on this task, take the lead.
>     >>>>>>>
>     >>>>>>> David
>     >>>>>>>
>     >>>>>>> Le 17/04/2020 à 11:17, Paolo Cavallini a écrit :
>     >>>>>>>
>     >>>>>>> Hi all,
>     >>>>>>> I'm working ont he server section of the manual:
>     >>>>>>>
>     https://docs.qgis.org/3.10/en/docs/user_manual/working_with_ogc/server/getting_started.html
>     >>>>>>> and I'm finding a number of inconsistencies which I'm
>     fixing. More
>     >>>>>>> generally, I find it rather confusing. I'd suggest to
>     reorganize it by
>     >>>>>>> first showing the very basic setup, with a minimal set of
>     >>>>>>> configurations, and adding more sophisticated configs after
>     that. I
>     >>>>>>> found this approach very effective in our training.
>     >>>>>>> Is there an agreement on that? Anyone interested in cooperating?
>     >>>>>>> Thanks in advance.
>     >>>>>>> All the best.
>     >>>>>>>
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>     www.faunalia.eu <http://www.faunalia.eu>:
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>     Message: 3
>     Date: Sat, 18 Apr 2020 13:13:40 +0200
>     From: Paolo Cavallini <cavallini at faunalia.it
>     <mailto:cavallini at faunalia.it>>
>     To: qgis-developer at lists.osgeo.org
>     <mailto:qgis-developer at lists.osgeo.org>
>     Subject: Re: [QGIS-Developer] Server manual
>     Message-ID: <6aa92834-a4bf-8034-fbbe-e0701b4393c9 at faunalia.it
>     <mailto:6aa92834-a4bf-8034-fbbe-e0701b4393c9 at faunalia.it>>
>     Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8
> 
>     Hi again
>     sorry for the flood. I also revised other qgis server sections for
>     consistence, using uniform paths and commands. To me it looks more
>     usable. Tests and comments welcome. I'm available for further fixes if
>     noticed.
>     Cheers.
> 
>     Il 18/04/20 12:51, Paolo Cavallini ha scritto:
>     > Hi all,
>     > I have reviewed
>     > docs/user_manual/working_with_ogc/server/getting_started.rst
>     > I could not test all the combination, so an independent test,
>     better if
>     > on a fresh machine, will be appreciated.
>     > Also help on the best way to configure a `qgis-server.service`` and
>     > ``spawn-fcgi.service`` will be useful.
>     > Thanks in advance.
>     > Cheers.
>     >
>     > Il 17/04/20 14:59, Paolo Cavallini ha scritto:
>     >> AFAICT, it seems better to incorporate content from the Training
>     Manual
>     >> into the User Manual, rather than the reverse. In this case, however,
>     >> the TM section would become useless.
>     >> I'm waiting for an authoritative response before proceeding.
>     >> Cheers.
>     >>
>     >> Il 17/04/20 14:45, Paolo Cavallini ha scritto:
>     >>> Hi all,
>     >>> I noticed that there is anple overlap and duplication between
>     the user
>     >>> manual:
>     >>>
>     https://docs.qgis.org/3.10/en/docs/user_manual/working_with_ogc/server/
>     >>> and the training manual:
>     >>>
>     https://docs.qgis.org/3.10/en/docs/training_manual/qgis_server/index.html#training-qgis-server
>     >>> I think this should be cleaned up, as is confusing: those who
>     are more
>     >>> familiar with the layout of manuals can please direct me?
>     >>> Thanks.
>     >>>
>     >>> Il 17/04/20 14:25, Paolo Cavallini ha scritto:
>     >>>> Thanks everybody for the feedback.
>     >>>> I could then:
>     >>>> * create a new file (let's call it server_new.rst)
>     >>>> * migrate and reorganize the content
>     >>>> * when ready, with all your contributes, we can replace the
>     existing
>     >>>> ones, splitting as appropriate.
>     >>>> How does it sound?
>     >>>> (Ale: yes, I agree, the new standalone should be added).
>     >>>> Cheers.
>     >>>>
>     >>>> Il 17/04/20 14:11, David Marteau ha scritto:
>     >>>>>
>     >>>>> Le 17/04/2020 à 13:44, Alessandro Pasotti a écrit :
>     >>>>>> Should we also add the new standalone development server to
>     the manual?
>     >>>>>
>     >>>>> IMHO we should document the various ways to setup a server: fcgi,
>     >>>>> development, python...
>     >>>>>
>     >>>>>
>     >>>>>>
>     >>>>>> On Fri, Apr 17, 2020 at 1:23 PM Etienne Trimaille
>     >>>>>> <etienne.trimaille at gmail.com
>     <mailto:etienne.trimaille at gmail.com>> wrote:
>     >>>>>>> Hi,
>     >>>>>>>
>     >>>>>>> Yes it's not easy, between what is the minimum to do, what
>     is highly recommended, between Apache/NGinx etc.
>     >>>>>>> So I think you can go ahead, we will follow your PR.
>     >>>>>>>
>     >>>>>>> I'm also keeping some notes, I will try to make a PR next
>     week to incorporate them.
>     >>>>>>>
>     >>>>>>> Le ven. 17 avr. 2020 à 13:17, David Marteau
>     <dmarteau at 3liz.com <mailto:dmarteau at 3liz.com>> a écrit :
>     >>>>>>>> Hi Paolo
>     >>>>>>>>
>     >>>>>>>> No problem for helping you on this task, take the lead.
>     >>>>>>>>
>     >>>>>>>> David
>     >>>>>>>>
>     >>>>>>>> Le 17/04/2020 à 11:17, Paolo Cavallini a écrit :
>     >>>>>>>>
>     >>>>>>>> Hi all,
>     >>>>>>>> I'm working ont he server section of the manual:
>     >>>>>>>>
>     https://docs.qgis.org/3.10/en/docs/user_manual/working_with_ogc/server/getting_started.html
>     >>>>>>>> and I'm finding a number of inconsistencies which I'm
>     fixing. More
>     >>>>>>>> generally, I find it rather confusing. I'd suggest to
>     reorganize it by
>     >>>>>>>> first showing the very basic setup, with a minimal set of
>     >>>>>>>> configurations, and adding more sophisticated configs after
>     that. I
>     >>>>>>>> found this approach very effective in our training.
>     >>>>>>>> Is there an agreement on that? Anyone interested in
>     cooperating?
>     >>>>>>>> Thanks in advance.
>     >>>>>>>> All the best.
>     >>>>>>>>
>     >>>>>>>> --
>     >>>>>>>>
>     >>>>>>>> David Marteau
>     >>>>>>>> Responsable Infrastructure
>     >>>>>>>> www.3liz.com <http://www.3liz.com>
>     >>>>>>>>
>     >>>>>>>> Tel. 06 63 02 89 83
>     >>>>>>>> Bureau
>     >>>>>>>> 31, rue de l'Argenterie
>     >>>>>>>> 34000 Montpellier
>     >>>>>>>> Siège social
>     >>>>>>>> 73, allée Kleber
>     >>>>>>>> Boulevard de Strasbourg
>     >>>>>>>> 34000 Montpellier
>     >>>>>>>>
>     >>>>>>>> _______________________________________________
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>     >>>>> --
>     >>>>>
>     >>>>> David Marteau
>     >>>>> Responsable Infrastructure
>     >>>>> www.3liz.com <http://www.3liz.com> <http://www.3liz.com>
>     >>>>>
>     >>>>> *Tel*. 06 63 02 89 83
>     >>>>> *Bureau*
>     >>>>> 31, rue de l'Argenterie
>     >>>>> 34000 Montpellier
>     >>>>> *Siège social*
>     >>>>> 73, allée Kleber
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>     >>>>> 34000 Montpellier
>     >>>>>
>     >>>>>
>     >>>>> _______________________________________________
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>     >>
>     >
> 
>     -- 
>     Paolo Cavallini - QGIS.ORG <http://QGIS.ORG> Chair
>     www.faunalia.eu <http://www.faunalia.eu>:
>     training, support, development on QGIS, PostGIS and more
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>     Message: 4
>     Date: Sat, 18 Apr 2020 12:33:53 +0100
>     From: Ant Scott <ascott at mapaction.org <mailto:ascott at mapaction.org>>
>     To: qgis-developer at lists.osgeo.org
>     <mailto:qgis-developer at lists.osgeo.org>
>     Subject: [QGIS-Developer] MapAction MapExport plugin
>     Message-ID:
>            
>     <CABdQhZSwzTvYTnfHDH7dHM4=1nn_YS=6az1w5u_-B0Yzd8ch3Q at mail.gmail.com
>     <mailto:6az1w5u_-B0Yzd8ch3Q at mail.gmail.com>>
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> 
>     Hi all,
> 
>     MapAction have developed a plugin (
>     https://plugins.qgis.org/plugins/mapexport/) which packages up a
>     jpg, pdf
>     and XML metadata file of a defined metadata set into a zip which is
>     passed
>     to our Map Catalogue for publishing (https://maps.mapaction.org/). We've
>     submitted this to the repository, and Paolo made the useful
>     suggestion that
>     we should start a conversation with developers of other plugins
>     which deal
>     with printing to see if there is scope for merging. and/or developing a
>     plugin with wider scope, hence this email (
>     https://github.com/mapaction/mapexport-qgis3/issues/2).
> 
>     Our plugin borrows heavily from the MapsPrinter plugin (
>     https://plugins.qgis.org/plugins/MapsPrinter/ for which huge
>     thanks), but
>     also adds some metadata creation and editing, with the values stored as
>     custom variables at an appropriate level (project, layout) before being
>     collected up for export to XML, and are also used to populate a standard
>     set of layout templates using expressions.
> 
>     The functionality replicates a longstanding tool which we've
>     developed for
>     Arc, with a goal of enabling QGIS to be used in deployments if
>     required. So
>     while the requirements are MapAction-specific, there are elements which
>     could have a more generic application - specifically generating
>     outputs for
>     a selected layout (which MapsPrinter already largely does), and creating
>     and generating editing UIs for custom variables.
> 
>     Are there any thoughts on how this could be taken forward, and is
>     there any
>     interest in doing so? To be honest my limited dev skills are not
>     going to
>     be a big asset in this, but I really like the ability to use custom
>     variables, and the area where I see most scope for development is the
>     ability to specify a set of metadata items in config which could
>     generate
>     variables, UI widgets in an editing dialogue, XML output etc, so as to
>     allow easy customisation.
> 
>     Interested to hear reactions/questions on what we've done.
> 
>     many thanks
>     Ant
> 
> 
>     -- 
> 
>     Antony Scott
> 
>     MapAction
>     +44 7866 455515
>     http://www.mapaction.org
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