[QGIS-Developer] Fwd: Urgent: Remove windows 3.10.2 installer from site

Wed Jan 22 06:53:43 PST 2020

do we need a mechanism to notify and deprecate 3.10.2 in case packages are
still available all around?

Luigi Pirelli

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On Wed, 22 Jan 2020 at 12:47, Matthias Kuhn <matthias at opengis.ch> wrote:

> How about
>
> - Waiting for https://github.com/qgis/QGIS/pull/33971
>
> - Releasing 3.10.3
>
> - Announce on twitter, blog, news panel
>
> Clear cut for everyone (including those 95% of our users not following
> [qgis on] twitter)
>
> Matthias
> On 1/22/20 12:39 PM, Anita Graser wrote:
>
> Is it time to send an update on Twitter yet? I don't see new installers at
> https://qgis.org/downloads/
>
> Regards,
> Anita
>
> On Wed, Jan 22, 2020 at 11:08 AM Mathieu Pellerin <nirvn.asia at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> I think the QGIS twitter account already mentioned that the 3.10.2
>> installer had been retired due to issues and re-build.
>>
>> On Wed, Jan 22, 2020 at 5:07 PM DelazJ <delazj at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi all,
>>>
>>> Thanks Mathieu. Should it be 3.10.2 or 3.10.3? Asking because those who
>>> have already downloaded the broken 3.10.2 may not think to update.
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>> Harrissou
>>>
>>> Le mer. 22 janv. 2020 à 11:05, Mathieu Pellerin <nirvn.asia at gmail.com>
>>> a écrit :
>>>
>>>> Matthias,
>>>>
>>>> Good idea.
>>>>
>>>> Math
>>>>
>>>> On Wed, Jan 22, 2020 at 5:02 PM Matthias Kuhn <matthias at opengis.ch>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Hi Mathieu,
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks a lot. It reads very well!
>>>>>
>>>>> Something that I'd like to add is that in case of still finding a bug,
>>>>> users should file issues and to mention proximity of LTR replacement.
>>>>> If you still happen to find QGIS behaving in an unexpected way, please
>>>>> let us know on https://github.com/qgis/QGIS/issues
>>>>> <https://www.google.com/url?q=https://github.com/qgis/QGIS/issues&sa=D&source=hangouts&ust=1579773605204000&usg=AFQjCNHP21SO7MPYwrn023vHOeZwMUBKuQ>
>>>>> as always. We are very happy that QGIS 3.10 is now in shape to replace 3.4
>>>>> as LTR in a month time.
>>>>>
>>>>> Bests
>>>>> Matthias
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On 1/22/20 10:58 AM, Mathieu Pellerin wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Paolo, here's the draft blog post:
>>>>>
>>>>> *Public Service Announcement: Update to the latest point release now*
>>>>> ------
>>>>> QGIS users who have adopted the 3.10 version when initially released
>>>>> at the end of October 2019 have likely noticed a sharp drop in reliability.
>>>>> The underlying issues have now been addressed in 3.10.2, all users are
>>>>> advised to update *now*.
>>>>>
>>>>> When QGIS 3.10 was first released in the end of October 2019, a pair
>>>>> of libraries – namely GDAL and PROJ – were updated to their next-generation
>>>>> versions. The advantages are plenty: GeoPDF export[1] support, more
>>>>> accurate coordinate transformation, etc. For those interested, more
>>>>> technical information on this is available here[2].
>>>>>
>>>>> The update of these crucial libraries led to a number of regressions.
>>>>> While we expected some issues to arise, the seriousness of the disruption
>>>>> caught us off guard. Yet, it was also somewhat inevitable: QGIS is the
>>>>> first large GIS project to expose these next-generation libraries to the
>>>>> masses. The large number of QGIS users across the globe were essentially
>>>>> stress testing both new code within QGIS as well as the libraries
>>>>> themselves.
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks to dedicated users taking time to file in report and the
>>>>> community helping out as well as our project sponsors for allowing us to
>>>>> fund development time, developers have been able to fix all known
>>>>> regressions in both in QGIS as well as underlying GDAL and PROJ libraries,
>>>>> benefiting a large number of open source projects.
>>>>>
>>>>> As a result of this collective effort by the community, QGIS 3.10.2 is
>>>>> now back to being the reliable and stable GIS software we all love. As
>>>>> such, we cannot stress enough the important of updating now.
>>>>>
>>>>> Once again, thanks to our community of testers, sponsors, and
>>>>> developers for their countless hours and efforts in making QGIS better.
>>>>>
>>>>> Happy mapping!
>>>>>
>>>>> [1] https://north-road.com/2019/09/03/qgis-3-10-loves-geopdf/
>>>>> [2] https://gdalbarn.com/
>>>>>
>>>>> On Tue, Jan 21, 2020 at 9:56 AM Paolo Cavallini <cavallini at faunalia.it>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Fully agreed. Mathieu, would you like to write it?
>>>>>> Thanks.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 21 January 2020 06:39:08 GMT+04:00, Mathieu Pellerin <
>>>>>> nirvn.asia at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> +100 on all that's been said here.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Also, once 3.10.2 is updated to include the updated packages &
>>>>>>> above-referred fix, I'd suggest writing a QGIS.org blog post to inform
>>>>>>> users of the worthiness of updating to 3.10.2(.2) *ASAP*, and expand a bit
>>>>>>> on why 3.10.0/.1 were such rough releases. We can finish the post by
>>>>>>> thanking users that have reported bugs (an inevitable nightmare to go
>>>>>>> through as QGIS was exposing brand new GDAL3/PROJ6 versions to the masses).
>>>>>>> IMHO, we should not skip this communication to our users.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Tue, Jan 21, 2020 at 7:27 AM Nyall Dawson <nyall.dawson at gmail.com>
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Also, we better wait for a fix for
>>>>>>>> https://github.com/qgis/QGIS/issues/33902 (incoming)...
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Gosh, will the nightmare ever end... Let's agree never to change
>>>>>>>> anything in gdal or proj or qgis ever again ;)
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Nyall
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> ---------- Forwarded message ---------
>>>>>>>> From: Nyall Dawson <nyall.dawson at gmail.com>
>>>>>>>> Date: Tue, 21 Jan 2020 at 06:28
>>>>>>>> Subject: Urgent: Remove windows 3.10.2 installer from site
>>>>>>>> To: qgis-developer <qgis-developer at lists.osgeo.org>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Can we please remove the 3.10.2 installer from the website as a
>>>>>>>> matter
>>>>>>>> of urgency? This installer was released using the older gdal 3.0.2
>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>> proj 6.2 versions, which directly lead to crashes and reprojection
>>>>>>>> failures in QGIS.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> QGIS ********************SHOULD NEVER EVER*********************** be
>>>>>>>> used with gdal >= 3 and gdal < 3.0.3 or proj >6 and proj < 6.3.0.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> This combination is a world of hurt for users :(
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Tickets filed at https://trac.osgeo.org/osgeo4w/ticket/618, and
>>>>>>>> https://trac.osgeo.org/osgeo4w/ticket/617, and later today I'm
>>>>>>>> going
>>>>>>>> to commit cmake blocks which will completely prevent compilation
>>>>>>>> under
>>>>>>>> the affected gdal/proj versions.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Nyall
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>>>>>> Please excuse my brevity.
>>>>>>
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