[QGIS-Developer] Fwd: Urgent: Remove windows 3.10.2 installer from site

Paolo Cavallini cavallini at faunalia.it
Fri Jan 24 01:06:39 PST 2020 

Thanks a lot everybody, nice cooperation!
Cheers.

On 24 January 2020 13:05:09 GMT+04:00, Mathieu Pellerin <nirvn.asia at gmail.com> wrote:
>Fantastic, thank you.
>
>On Fri, Jan 24, 2020, 15:48 Anita Graser <anitagraser at gmx.at> wrote:
>
>> I can do it.
>>
>> Regards,
>> Anita
>>
>> On Fri, Jan 24, 2020 at 12:15 AM Mathieu Pellerin
><nirvn.asia at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Jürgen, thanks for the successful re-release of 3.10.2.
>>>
>>> Paolo, Anita, who is in a position to publish the drafted post on
>the
>>> blog?
>>>
>>>
>>> On Thu, Jan 23, 2020, 10:59 Mathieu Pellerin <nirvn.asia at gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> +1 to that plan. We're 33% done already since the blocking PR has
>been
>>>> merged.
>>>>
>>>> On Wed, Jan 22, 2020 at 6:47 PM Matthias Kuhn <matthias at opengis.ch>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> How about
>>>>>
>>>>> - Waiting for https://github.com/qgis/QGIS/pull/33971
>>>>>
>>>>> - Releasing 3.10.3
>>>>>
>>>>> - Announce on twitter, blog, news panel
>>>>>
>>>>> Clear cut for everyone (including those 95% of our users not
>following
>>>>> [qgis on] twitter)
>>>>>
>>>>> Matthias
>>>>> On 1/22/20 12:39 PM, Anita Graser wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Is it time to send an update on Twitter yet? I don't see new
>installers
>>>>> at https://qgis.org/downloads/
>>>>>
>>>>> Regards,
>>>>> Anita
>>>>>
>>>>> On Wed, Jan 22, 2020 at 11:08 AM Mathieu Pellerin
><nirvn.asia at gmail.com>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> I think the QGIS twitter account already mentioned that the
>3.10.2
>>>>>> installer had been retired due to issues and re-build.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Wed, Jan 22, 2020 at 5:07 PM DelazJ <delazj at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hi all,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Thanks Mathieu. Should it be 3.10.2 or 3.10.3? Asking because
>those
>>>>>>> who have already downloaded the broken 3.10.2 may not think to
>update.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>>> Harrissou
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Le mer. 22 janv. 2020 à 11:05, Mathieu Pellerin
><nirvn.asia at gmail.com>
>>>>>>> a écrit :
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Matthias,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Good idea.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Math
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Wed, Jan 22, 2020 at 5:02 PM Matthias Kuhn
><matthias at opengis.ch>
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Hi Mathieu,
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Thanks a lot. It reads very well!
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Something that I'd like to add is that in case of still
>finding a
>>>>>>>>> bug, users should file issues and to mention proximity of LTR
>replacement.
>>>>>>>>> If you still happen to find QGIS behaving in an unexpected
>way,
>>>>>>>>> please let us know on https://github.com/qgis/QGIS/issues
>>>>>>>>>
><https://www.google.com/url?q=https://github.com/qgis/QGIS/issues&sa=D&source=hangouts&ust=1579773605204000&usg=AFQjCNHP21SO7MPYwrn023vHOeZwMUBKuQ>
>>>>>>>>> as always. We are very happy that QGIS 3.10 is now in shape to
>replace 3.4
>>>>>>>>> as LTR in a month time.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Bests
>>>>>>>>> Matthias
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On 1/22/20 10:58 AM, Mathieu Pellerin wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Paolo, here's the draft blog post:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> *Public Service Announcement: Update to the latest point
>release
>>>>>>>>> now*
>>>>>>>>> ------
>>>>>>>>> QGIS users who have adopted the 3.10 version when initially
>>>>>>>>> released at the end of October 2019 have likely noticed a
>sharp drop in
>>>>>>>>> reliability. The underlying issues have now been addressed in
>3.10.2, all
>>>>>>>>> users are advised to update *now*.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> When QGIS 3.10 was first released in the end of October 2019,
>a
>>>>>>>>> pair of libraries – namely GDAL and PROJ – were updated to
>their
>>>>>>>>> next-generation versions. The advantages are plenty: GeoPDF
>export[1]
>>>>>>>>> support, more accurate coordinate transformation, etc. For
>those
>>>>>>>>> interested, more technical information on this is available
>here[2].
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> The update of these crucial libraries led to a number of
>>>>>>>>> regressions. While we expected some issues to arise, the
>seriousness of the
>>>>>>>>> disruption caught us off guard. Yet, it was also somewhat
>inevitable: QGIS
>>>>>>>>> is the first large GIS project to expose these next-generation
>libraries to
>>>>>>>>> the masses. The large number of QGIS users across the globe
>were
>>>>>>>>> essentially stress testing both new code within QGIS as well
>as the
>>>>>>>>> libraries themselves.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Thanks to dedicated users taking time to file in report and
>the
>>>>>>>>> community helping out as well as our project sponsors for
>allowing us to
>>>>>>>>> fund development time, developers have been able to fix all
>known
>>>>>>>>> regressions in both in QGIS as well as underlying GDAL and
>PROJ libraries,
>>>>>>>>> benefiting a large number of open source projects.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> As a result of this collective effort by the community, QGIS
>3.10.2
>>>>>>>>> is now back to being the reliable and stable GIS software we
>all love. As
>>>>>>>>> such, we cannot stress enough the important of updating now.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Once again, thanks to our community of testers, sponsors, and
>>>>>>>>> developers for their countless hours and efforts in making
>QGIS better.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Happy mapping!
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> [1] https://north-road.com/2019/09/03/qgis-3-10-loves-geopdf/
>>>>>>>>> [2] https://gdalbarn.com/
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Jan 21, 2020 at 9:56 AM Paolo Cavallini <
>>>>>>>>> cavallini at faunalia.it> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Fully agreed. Mathieu, would you like to write it?
>>>>>>>>>> Thanks.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On 21 January 2020 06:39:08 GMT+04:00, Mathieu Pellerin <
>>>>>>>>>> nirvn.asia at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> +100 on all that's been said here.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Also, once 3.10.2 is updated to include the updated packages
>&
>>>>>>>>>>> above-referred fix, I'd suggest writing a QGIS.org blog post
>to inform
>>>>>>>>>>> users of the worthiness of updating to 3.10.2(.2) *ASAP*,
>and expand a bit
>>>>>>>>>>> on why 3.10.0/.1 were such rough releases. We can finish the
>post by
>>>>>>>>>>> thanking users that have reported bugs (an inevitable
>nightmare to go
>>>>>>>>>>> through as QGIS was exposing brand new GDAL3/PROJ6 versions
>to the masses).
>>>>>>>>>>> IMHO, we should not skip this communication to our users.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Jan 21, 2020 at 7:27 AM Nyall Dawson <
>>>>>>>>>>> nyall.dawson at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Also, we better wait for a fix for
>>>>>>>>>>>> https://github.com/qgis/QGIS/issues/33902 (incoming)...
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Gosh, will the nightmare ever end... Let's agree never to
>change
>>>>>>>>>>>> anything in gdal or proj or qgis ever again ;)
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Nyall
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> ---------- Forwarded message ---------
>>>>>>>>>>>> From: Nyall Dawson <nyall.dawson at gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Date: Tue, 21 Jan 2020 at 06:28
>>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Urgent: Remove windows 3.10.2 installer from site
>>>>>>>>>>>> To: qgis-developer <qgis-developer at lists.osgeo.org>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Can we please remove the 3.10.2 installer from the website
>as a
>>>>>>>>>>>> matter
>>>>>>>>>>>> of urgency? This installer was released using the older
>gdal
>>>>>>>>>>>> 3.0.2 and
>>>>>>>>>>>> proj 6.2 versions, which directly lead to crashes and
>>>>>>>>>>>> reprojection
>>>>>>>>>>>> failures in QGIS.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> QGIS ********************SHOULD NEVER
>>>>>>>>>>>> EVER*********************** be
>>>>>>>>>>>> used with gdal >= 3 and gdal < 3.0.3 or proj >6 and proj <
>6.3.0.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> This combination is a world of hurt for users :(
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Tickets filed at https://trac.osgeo.org/osgeo4w/ticket/618,
>and
>>>>>>>>>>>> https://trac.osgeo.org/osgeo4w/ticket/617, and later today
>I'm
>>>>>>>>>>>> going
>>>>>>>>>>>> to commit cmake blocks which will completely prevent
>compilation
>>>>>>>>>>>> under
>>>>>>>>>>>> the affected gdal/proj versions.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Nyall
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