[QGIS-Developer] QGIS Full Stack Web Developer Report

Mon Nov 27 05:34:35 PST 2023

Dear Julien,

I've created a new PR for this fix here<https://github.com/qgis/QGIS-Django/pull/314>. Please feel free to ask or add comments if you have any concerns about it.

Best regards.

—
[Image]

Lova Andriarimalala
QGIS Full Stack Developer
Visit http://kartoza.com<http://kartoza.com/> to find out about open source:
* Desktop GIS programming services
* Geospatial web development
* GIS Training
* Consulting Services
Office: +261(0)34 09 524 73<tel:+261340952473>

From: Lova Andriarimalala <lova at kartoza.com>
Date: Monday, 27 November 2023 at 4:12 PM
To: Julien Moura <julien.moura at oslandia.com>, qgis-developer at lists.osgeo.org <qgis-developer at lists.osgeo.org>
Subject: Re: [QGIS-Developer] QGIS Full Stack Web Developer Report
Dear Julien,

It is a pleasure for me to work on the project.
I’ve created a QEP<https://github.com/qgis/QGIS-Enhancement-Proposals/issues/279> that summarizes this discussion. As suggested, I think we can go forward with the non-blocking warning for now and implement licensing requirements on schedule. I'll be creating a documented PR for this fix shortly.

Best regards,
Lova
—
[Image]

Lova Andriarimalala
QGIS Full Stack Developer
Visit http://kartoza.com<http://kartoza.com/> to find out about open source:
* Desktop GIS programming services
* Geospatial web development
* GIS Training
* Consulting Services
Office: +261(0)34 09 524 73<tel:+261340952473>

From: QGIS-Developer <qgis-developer-bounces at lists.osgeo.org> on behalf of Julien Moura via QGIS-Developer <qgis-developer at lists.osgeo.org>
Date: Monday, 27 November 2023 at 2:41 PM
To: qgis-developer at lists.osgeo.org <qgis-developer at lists.osgeo.org>
Subject: Re: [QGIS-Developer] QGIS Full Stack Web Developer Report

Hello,

Thanks again for the technical work and improving the workflow.

+1 for the lazy consensus on non breaking changes.

Regarding the license topic:

+1 for the metadata field with a spdx license. But take care, it's not so easy to a have an exhaustive list. Maybe we should move to the PyPi classifiers since plugins are Python packages and there is already a work on maintaining a metadata ecosystem, including tooling to check it (pip install packaging).

Are we okay with the step back to only a non-blocking warning?

Regards
On 27/11/2023 10:50, Lova Andriarimalala via QGIS-Developer wrote:
Hello everyone,

Thank you all. It's truly an honor to work on this project.
I will begin by utilizing QEP to create a QEP that summarizes this discussion and going forward with the suggestion to make the license file recommended for now.

I have reviewed the tickets in the backlog and will evaluate their size. If I come across anything that I don't understand, I will add comments to seek clarification.

Best regards,
Lova

—
[Image]

Lova Andriarimalala
QGIS Full Stack Developer
Visit http://kartoza.com<http://kartoza.com/> to find out about open source:
* Desktop GIS programming services
* Geospatial web development
* GIS Training
* Consulting Services
Office: +261(0)34 09 524 73<tel:+261340952473>

From: QGIS-Developer <qgis-developer-bounces at lists.osgeo.org><mailto:qgis-developer-bounces at lists.osgeo.org> on behalf of Matthias Kuhn via QGIS-Developer <qgis-developer at lists.osgeo.org><mailto:qgis-developer at lists.osgeo.org>
Date: Monday, 27 November 2023 at 12:24 PM
To: Tim Sutton <tim at kartoza.com><mailto:tim at kartoza.com>
Cc: qgis-developer at lists.osgeo.org<mailto:qgis-developer at lists.osgeo.org> <qgis-developer at lists.osgeo.org><mailto:qgis-developer at lists.osgeo.org>
Subject: Re: [QGIS-Developer] QGIS Full Stack Web Developer Report
Hi Tim,

For the workflow, that sounds great, thanks a lot!
I agree only breaking changes should go "the long way" and for simple fixes and improvements we should just get them done with low overhead.
Going forward with a small QEP for the license sounds very good.
Regarding the metadata, I would suggest we use the ids from https://spdx.org/licenses/.
So for the usual QGIS plugin case, that would be

    license=GPL-2.0-or-later

On another note, I just added a couple of tickets to the backlog, I am not able to estimate the size of them, so if they are too complicated, just don't prioritize them.

Thank you and best regards
Matthias

On Mon, Nov 27, 2023 at 10:15 AM Tim Sutton <tim at kartoza.com<mailto:tim at kartoza.com>> wrote:
Hi all

On Mon, Nov 27, 2023 at 1:32 AM Nyall Dawson <nyall.dawson at gmail.com<mailto:nyall.dawson at gmail.com>> wrote:

On Mon, 27 Nov 2023 at 00:19, Tim Sutton via QGIS-Developer <qgis-developer at lists.osgeo.org<mailto:qgis-developer at lists.osgeo.org>> wrote:
>
> @Matthias Kuhn and @Julien Moura I fixed the permissions, the board for Lova is public now. Please feel free to add items to the backlog and mark them as priority as needed.  I also asked Lova to try to work through all the old issues and fix / close them as appropriate so we can try to get the number of tickets down to a small number.

Tim/Lova, thanks for your outstanding efforts and commitment here!

It's really exciting to see all the love and attention that the web and plugin infrastructure is getting as a result! 😍

Thanks so much Nyall and all credit goes to Lova who is doing fantastic work! What I suggest is that moving forward, Lova uses QEP's too propose and discuss breaking / major workflow changes on the plugins site. In that QEP he can address:

* what the change is (link back to ticket in QGIS-Django for example)
* what the impact will be
* proposed roll out time line
etc.

And we can discuss and agree these changes there before he goes ahead with it. For smaller changes, I suggest he 'just get on with it' - his scrum board is public and you are all welcome to help prioritise his work.

For the current issue under discussion (license requirements for plugins), I have asked Lova to make a QEP and synthesize the discussion there, mainly so he can have a practice run at going through the QEP process, although I will add my 2c that I like Matthias' simple solution to the problem (adding license as a line to the metadata.txt). If I understand you right Matthias, our metadata would then look like this?:

-----------------------------
[general]
name=QGIS Animation Workbench
description=A plugin to let you build animations in QGIS
about=QGIS Animation Bench exists because we wanted to use all the awesome cartography features in QGIS and make cool, animated maps! QGIS already includes the Temporal Manager which allows you to produce animations for time-based data. But what if you want to make animations where you travel around the map, zooming in and out, and perhaps making features on the map wiggle and jiggle as the animation progresses? That is what the animation workbench tries to solve...
version=1.1
qgisMinimumVersion=3.0
author=Tim Sutton
email=tim at kartoza.com<mailto:tim at kartoza.com>
repository=https://github.com/timlinux/QGISAnimationPlugin
license=GPLv2
-----------------------------

There is probably another thread to this discussion which is to understand which license are accepted and which not, but that is a job for another QEP I guess...!

Regards

Tim

Nyall

8< ----------- snip -----------------

--
------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
[https://kartoza.com/files/KartozaNewLogoThumbnail.jpg]

Tim Sutton
Kartoza Co-Founder
Visit http://kartoza.com<http://kartoza.com/> to find out about open source:
 * Desktop GIS programming services
 * Geospatial web development
* GIS Training
* Consulting Services
Tim is a member of the QGIS Project Steering Committee
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

_______________________________________________

QGIS-Developer mailing list

QGIS-Developer at lists.osgeo.org<mailto:QGIS-Developer at lists.osgeo.org>

List info: https://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/qgis-developer

Unsubscribe: https://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/qgis-developer
-------------- next part --------------
An HTML attachment was scrubbed...
URL: <http://lists.osgeo.org/pipermail/qgis-developer/attachments/20231127/eb318d79/attachment-0001.htm>
-------------- next part --------------
A non-text attachment was scrubbed...
Name: image001.jpg
Type: image/jpeg
Size: 6123 bytes
Desc: image001.jpg
URL: <http://lists.osgeo.org/pipermail/qgis-developer/attachments/20231127/eb318d79/attachment-0002.jpg>
-------------- next part --------------
A non-text attachment was scrubbed...
Name: image001.jpg
Type: image/jpeg
Size: 6123 bytes
Desc: image001.jpg
URL: <http://lists.osgeo.org/pipermail/qgis-developer/attachments/20231127/eb318d79/attachment-0003.jpg>