[Qgis-psc] Draft announcement re 3.0

Tue Feb 9 14:20:50 PST 2016

Hi

> On 10 Feb 2016, at 00:15, Matthias Kuhn - OPENGIS.ch <matthias at opengis.ch> wrote:
> 
> Hi PSC,
> 
> Thank you very much for taking a decision, that will help very much to get ahead!
> 
> Just one question, did you evaluate to switch master with a qgis2 branch and qgis3 with master? So basically the same schema but with renamed branches.
> IMHO that would make it clearer that devs are encouraged to work on qgis 3 and we would not have to "replace" a branch but instead just retire the qgis2 branch once the release happened.

I think the problem with that is that there are a lot of downstream build activities that would break straight away if we swap branches around, whilst the intent is to keep master in a stable, packageable state while work goes on in the 3.0. branch.

Regards

Tim

> 
> Thanks again and best wishes
> 
> Matthias
> 
> On February 9, 2016 11:30:28 AM GMT+01:00, Tim Sutton <tim at kartoza.com> wrote:
> >Hi
> >
> >
> >On Tue, Feb 9, 2016 at 2:58 AM, Larry Shaffer <larrys at dakotacarto.com>
> >wrote:
> >
> >> Hi Tim, Jürgen and PSC,
> >>
> >> After reviewing this plan I have to say it is an excellent solution
> >to a
> >> no-size-fits-all problem. Thank you for all the consideration and
> >work you
> >> have put into it.
> >>
> >> I now have a solid (and indeterminate :^) schedule to present to my
> >> employer, which will help them plan resources to fund further QGIS
> >> development.
> >>
> >> It will also help with planning on how/when to produce new nightlies
> >for
> >> Mac.
> >>
> >
> >Thanks Larry - I will post my blog post summarising everything tonight
> >(including salient bits from the above discussion). Yes its
> >interterminate,
> >but I think the general aim is still to try to encourage everyone to
> >get it
> >ready for 1 year from now (as much as we can).
> >
> >Regards
> >
> >Tim
> >
> >
> >
> >>
> >> Regards,
> >>
> >> Larry Shaffer
> >> QGIS Support/Development | Boundless
> >>
> >> Dakota Cartography
> >> Black Hills, South Dakota
> >>
> >> On Mon, Feb 8, 2016 at 7:45 AM, Jürgen E. <jef at norbit.de> wrote:
> >>
> >>> Hi Tim,
> >>>
> >>> On Mon, 08. Feb 2016 at 14:01:12 +0200, Tim Sutton wrote:
> >>> > Thanks Andreas - I’ll just paraphrase the above as another note in
> >the
> >>> > article - should make things a bit clearer!
> >>>
> >>> Yes. We do 2.16 with PyQt5/Python3 support next to the existing
> >>> Qt4/PyQt4/Python2 and the existing and widely unused Qt5 support.
> >So we
> >>> have
> >>> all the smooth, non-breaking steps in master. We'll still release
> >using
> >>> Qt4/PyQt4/Python2, so that all the plugins keep working. And people
> >can
> >>> complete stuff that they have already started working on.
> >>>
> >>> 2.16 will be in the regular 4 months schedule.
> >>>
> >>> After 2.16 we branch off a qgis3 branch that gets the API changes.
> >There
> >>> we
> >>> drop Qt4/PyQt4/Python2 support and switch to Qt5/PyQt5/Python3.
> >Because
> >>> we
> >>> cannot really estimate if that takes 4, 8 or even more months, we'll
> >work
> >>> on
> >>> that on a "release when ready" scheme an see how it goes and set a
> >date
> >>> when
> >>> qgis3 stabilized.
> >>>
> >>> The qgis3 branch will be in development so at first we'll probably
> >have
> >>> something that doesn't build at all, requires dependencies that are
> >not
> >>> easy
> >>> available or at least not available on all platforms, while we're at
> >it.
> >>>
> >>> Because there might be stuff, that can't wait that long, we
> >meanwhile keep
> >>> master open for new features. The nightlies can keep on going
> >without
> >>> much
> >>> effort and also regular releases could be done if necessary.
> >>>
> >>> But master should still considered a dead branch as we is relies on
> >fading
> >>> dependencies and it will be eventually be replaced by the qgis3 (no
> >>> merge). So
> >>> stuff added to master before will get lost, if it was not also
> >merged or
> >>> redone
> >>> for qgis3. So people should think twice if they consider to do
> >anything
> >>> in
> >>> master while we're at qgis3.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Jürgen
> >>>
> >>> --
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