[Qgis-psc] Updated financial information

[Luigi Pirelli]

Hi Adnreas,

I can't find how much was the % for QGIS packt books... but 200€ seems
really a low income, especially because they have many QGIS titles. The
questions are:

1) what is the %
2) was on all QGIS titles or only on specific ones?

cheers

Luigi Pirelli

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On 11 April 2018 at 08:14, Andreas Neumann <andreas at qgis.org> wrote:

> Dear PSC,
>
> The accounting document is now up-to-date:
> https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1VOt4RFJkJ7LaTAnEGmQ2VB1DZT8Q9
> Ior-b_uBAVP8YQ/edit#gid=1008844512
>
> For those who don't have much time - you can see the summary: aggregated
> numbers in categories in comparison with 2018 budget proposal:
> https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1WphBgUOx0abTJ_
> 33jRVqFTkRU7KYrg8GyBLFdkYC2hw/edit#gid=0
>
> Some comments:
>
>    - We spent more on QGIS 3.0 bug fixing than budgeted already. There
>    are still so many open problems with QGIS 3.x, if you look into the bug
>    tracker. So - Paolo - if you could do the Call for Donations / Sponsorships
>    - as discussed in the last meeting - to help finance open issues, it would
>    really help!
>    - Expenses on dev meetings are generally cheaper than budgeted. F.e.
>    for Madeira we budgeted 7k, but only 3.3k are spent so far.
>    - There is about 4k additional sponsorship money to be expected in the
>    next 1-2 days.
>    - One positive surprise: Spreadshirt is generating more income than
>    expected
>    - One negative issue: training certificates are not doing well. Not a
>    single one sold so far.
>    - The Packt Publishing royalty scheme is also not generating much
>    income at the moment. Seems the QGIS books don't sell so well. We didn't
>    pass the tresholds so far on them when they would pay out the royalty money.
>
> Finally an example on how much we loose during a PayPal sponsorship or
> donation payment:
>
> Take for example a sponsorship money from Canada (Chartwell Consultants):
>
> They pay 500 €. In our PayPal account, this arrives as 477.65 €. So PayPal
> earned 22.35 € (4.5%)  on that single small payment! Later, when this money
> is transferred to our bank account, they convert that remaining 477.65 to
> CHF and my bank is converting it back to €, because our account runs in €.
> All of my attempts to convince PayPal to not do the unnecessary payment
> failed so far. In their simple view of the world - there is one single
> currency per country - they can't change that view of their world! The
> amount that arrives in our bank account after the unnecessary currency
> conversion (€ --> CHF --> €) is € 457.35. Again  - PayPal - and our bank -
> is earning money during this unnecessary currency conversion. So from 500 €
> we loose overall 9.14 percent. Don't you think this is almost a criminal
> act from PayPal and our bank? How can it be justified that they earn >9 %
> from a single payment?
>
> On the other hand - if this payment was made as a SEPA payment from within
> Europe the full amount of 500 € would appear in our bank account. Not a
> single cent would be lost.
>
> For me, this is an incentive to a) convince people to uses SEPA payments
> (direct bank transfers) where possible and b) move to Stripe for credit
> card payments (where necessary - for payments outside of Europe) as quickly
> as possible. They don't do the unnecessary currency conversions and their
> overall fees are lower. We would loose only 3-4 percent instead of >9.
>
> Thanks and greetings,
> Andreas
>
>
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>
> --
> Andreas Neumann
> QGIS.ORG board member (treasurer)
>
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