[Qgis-psc] Updated financial information
Paolo Cavallini
cavallini at faunalia.it
Wed Apr 11 05:55:38 PDT 2018
Thanks Andreas for the clarification.
Let's see how we can attract new donors then.
Of course your ideas and suggestions are important.
All the best.
Il 11/04/2018 14:42, Andreas Neumann ha scritto:
> Hi Paolo,
>
> I can comment on the income:
>
> 1. we missed about on one months of donations through PayPal because the
> account was blocked - at the worst possible time - right after the QGIS
> 3 release.
> 2. Sponsorship payments are unevenly distributed throughout the year.
> The two gold sponsorships both expire in June and several silver
> sponsorships expire in autumn. So it is quite normal that payments are
> not evenly distributed throughout the year.
>
> Currently I am not so worried that we won't reach our overall goal. But
> of course - if you can help us attract new sponsors, this is always
> welcome ;-)
>
> Andreas
>
>
>
> On 11 April 2018 at 13:20, Paolo Cavallini <cavallini at faunalia.it
> <mailto:cavallini at faunalia.it>> wrote:
>
> Thanks a lot Andreas, so nice to see this clear picture.
> Any comment on the income? Still about 80% is missing, I assume you
> expect the rest will be coming through the year, correct? Is this in
> line with previous years?
> All the best.
>
> Il 11/04/2018 08:14, Andreas Neumann ha scritto:
> > Dear PSC,
> >
> > The accounting document is now up-to-date:
> >
> https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1VOt4RFJkJ7LaTAnEGmQ2VB1DZT8Q9Ior-b_uBAVP8YQ/edit#gid=1008844512
> <https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1VOt4RFJkJ7LaTAnEGmQ2VB1DZT8Q9Ior-b_uBAVP8YQ/edit#gid=1008844512>
> >
> > For those who don't have much time - you can see the summary:
> aggregated
> > numbers in categories in comparison with 2018 budget proposal:
> >
> https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1WphBgUOx0abTJ_33jRVqFTkRU7KYrg8GyBLFdkYC2hw/edit#gid=0
> <https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1WphBgUOx0abTJ_33jRVqFTkRU7KYrg8GyBLFdkYC2hw/edit#gid=0>
> >
> > Some comments:
> >
> > * We spent more on QGIS 3.0 bug fixing than budgeted already. There
> > are still so many open problems with QGIS 3.x, if you look
> into the
> > bug tracker. So - Paolo - if you could do the Call for Donations /
> > Sponsorships - as discussed in the last meeting - to help finance
> > open issues, it would really help!
> > * Expenses on dev meetings are generally cheaper than budgeted. F.e.
> > for Madeira we budgeted 7k, but only 3.3k are spent so far.
> > * There is about 4k additional sponsorship money to be expected
> in the
> > next 1-2 days.
> > * One positive surprise: Spreadshirt is generating more income than
> > expected
> > * One negative issue: training certificates are not doing well.
> Not a
> > single one sold so far.
> > * The Packt Publishing royalty scheme is also not generating much
> > income at the moment. Seems the QGIS books don't sell so well. We
> > didn't pass the tresholds so far on them when they would pay
> out the
> > royalty money.
> >
> > Finally an example on how much we loose during a PayPal sponsorship or
> > donation payment:
> >
> > Take for example a sponsorship money from Canada (Chartwell
> Consultants):
> >
> > They pay 500 €. In our PayPal account, this arrives as 477.65 €. So
> > PayPal earned 22.35 € (4.5%) on that single small payment! Later,
> when
> > this money is transferred to our bank account, they convert that
> > remaining 477.65 to CHF and my bank is converting it back to €,
> because
> > our account runs in €. All of my attempts to convince PayPal to not do
> > the unnecessary payment failed so far. In their simple view of the
> world
> > - there is one single currency per country - they can't change
> that view
> > of their world! The amount that arrives in our bank account after the
> > unnecessary currency conversion (€ --> CHF --> €) is € 457.35.
> Again -
> > PayPal - and our bank - is earning money during this unnecessary
> > currency conversion. So from 500 € we loose overall 9.14 percent.
> Don't
> > you think this is almost a criminal act from PayPal and our bank? How
> > can it be justified that they earn >9 % from a single payment?
> >
> > On the other hand - if this payment was made as a SEPA payment from
> > within Europe the full amount of 500 € would appear in our bank
> account.
> > Not a single cent would be lost.
> >
> > For me, this is an incentive to a) convince people to uses SEPA
> payments
> > (direct bank transfers) where possible and b) move to Stripe for
> credit
> > card payments (where necessary - for payments outside of Europe) as
> > quickly as possible. They don't do the unnecessary currency
> conversions
> > and their overall fees are lower. We would loose only 3-4 percent
> > instead of >9.
> >
> > Thanks and greetings,
> > Andreas
> >
> >
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> > --
> > Andreas Neumann
> > QGIS.ORG <http://QGIS.ORG> <http://QGIS.ORG> board member (treasurer)
> >
> >
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