[Qgis-psc] Updated financial information

Andreas Neumann andreas at qgis.org
Wed Apr 11 05:42:44 PDT 2018


Hi Paolo,

I can comment on the income:

1. we missed about on one months of donations through PayPal because the
account was blocked - at the worst possible time - right after the QGIS 3
release.
2. Sponsorship payments are unevenly distributed throughout the year. The
two gold sponsorships both expire in June and several silver sponsorships
expire in autumn. So it is quite normal that payments are not evenly
distributed throughout the year.

Currently I am not so worried that we won't reach our overall goal. But of
course - if you can help us attract new sponsors, this is always welcome ;-)

Andreas



On 11 April 2018 at 13:20, Paolo Cavallini <cavallini at faunalia.it> wrote:

> Thanks a lot Andreas, so nice to see this clear picture.
> Any comment on the income? Still about 80% is missing, I assume you
> expect the rest will be coming through the year, correct? Is this in
> line with previous years?
> All the best.
>
> Il 11/04/2018 08:14, Andreas Neumann ha scritto:
> > Dear PSC,
> >
> > The accounting document is now up-to-date:
> > https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1VOt4RFJkJ7LaTAnEGmQ2VB1DZT8Q9
> Ior-b_uBAVP8YQ/edit#gid=1008844512
> >
> > For those who don't have much time - you can see the summary: aggregated
> > numbers in categories in comparison with 2018 budget proposal:
> > https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1WphBgUOx0abTJ_
> 33jRVqFTkRU7KYrg8GyBLFdkYC2hw/edit#gid=0
> >
> > Some comments:
> >
> >   * We spent more on QGIS 3.0 bug fixing than budgeted already. There
> >     are still so many open problems with QGIS 3.x, if you look into the
> >     bug tracker. So - Paolo - if you could do the Call for Donations /
> >     Sponsorships - as discussed in the last meeting - to help finance
> >     open issues, it would really help!
> >   * Expenses on dev meetings are generally cheaper than budgeted. F.e.
> >     for Madeira we budgeted 7k, but only 3.3k are spent so far.
> >   * There is about 4k additional sponsorship money to be expected in the
> >     next 1-2 days.
> >   * One positive surprise: Spreadshirt is generating more income than
> >     expected
> >   * One negative issue: training certificates are not doing well. Not a
> >     single one sold so far.
> >   * The Packt Publishing royalty scheme is also not generating much
> >     income at the moment. Seems the QGIS books don't sell so well. We
> >     didn't pass the tresholds so far on them when they would pay out the
> >     royalty money.
> >
> > Finally an example on how much we loose during a PayPal sponsorship or
> > donation payment:
> >
> > Take for example a sponsorship money from Canada (Chartwell Consultants):
> >
> > They pay 500 €. In our PayPal account, this arrives as 477.65 €. So
> > PayPal earned 22.35 € (4.5%)  on that single small payment! Later, when
> > this money is transferred to our bank account, they convert that
> > remaining 477.65 to CHF and my bank is converting it back to €, because
> > our account runs in €. All of my attempts to convince PayPal to not do
> > the unnecessary payment failed so far. In their simple view of the world
> > - there is one single currency per country - they can't change that view
> > of their world! The amount that arrives in our bank account after the
> > unnecessary currency conversion (€ --> CHF --> €) is € 457.35. Again  -
> > PayPal - and our bank - is earning money during this unnecessary
> > currency conversion. So from 500 € we loose overall 9.14 percent. Don't
> > you think this is almost a criminal act from PayPal and our bank? How
> > can it be justified that they earn >9 % from a single payment?
> >
> > On the other hand - if this payment was made as a SEPA payment from
> > within Europe the full amount of 500 € would appear in our bank account.
> > Not a single cent would be lost.
> >
> > For me, this is an incentive to a) convince people to uses SEPA payments
> > (direct bank transfers) where possible and b) move to Stripe for credit
> > card payments (where necessary - for payments outside of Europe) as
> > quickly as possible. They don't do the unnecessary currency conversions
> > and their overall fees are lower. We would loose only 3-4 percent
> > instead of >9.
> >
> > Thanks and greetings,
> > Andreas
> >
> >
> > --
> >
> > --
> > Andreas Neumann
> > QGIS.ORG <http://QGIS.ORG> board member (treasurer)
> >
> >
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