[Qgis-psc] Notes about certification

Paolo Cavallini cavallini at faunalia.it
Sun Sep 16 23:37:56 PDT 2018


Fine, thanks for clarifying.

All the best.


Il 09/16/2018 10:17 AM, Alexandre Neto ha scritto:
> Sorry, I think I wasn't very clear in my last email.
>
> We, as a user group, have been discussing when to consider a company
> "QGIS friendly". To clarify, it had nothing to do with the Training
> Certification process, but for the creation on our site of a page
> dedicated to services companies. Only companies with certain criteria
> can show in there. Yet, both their services and their contributions
> will be listed there. This way, users can take their own conclusions
> on how deep each company is involved (fingers crossed for users
> finding contributions important).
>
> The user group, when asked by the Certification program about if a
> certain company should be allowed to be certificated, would prefer to
> use the same kind of criteria to say yes or no. Obviously this should
> be adding to any criteria that the QGIS Project decides on.
>
> This being said, you are right. 500 Euros is probably too cheap for a
> mid-size company in Europe, but maybe it's not such a small 
> contribution for a small one man show company in South-America. In
> some cases, money might be the only way a company can contribute back
> to the project. It's not easy to measure people's contributions in a
> fair way.
>
> Anyway, I think we (PROJECT) need to be clear about who we want to be
> certificated for training and work from there.
>
> Best regards,
>
> Alexandre Neto
>
> A sáb, 15/09/2018, 13:20, Paolo Cavallini <cavallini at faunalia.it
> <mailto:cavallini at faunalia.it>> escreveu:
>
>     Hi all,
>
>     Il 09/13/2018 01:18 AM, Nyall Dawson ha scritto:
>     > My concern here -- in the name of "giving back", we're actually
>     mainly
>     > just benefiting the "leaches".
>     lots of interesting thought in this thread, thanks to all.
>     Let me try to summarize:
>
>     * software and documentation are very similar, but not exactly the
>     same
>     thing: when donating code (which is often paid anyway) we help
>     primarily
>     users, so our customers; when donating docs we help more our
>     competitors
>     * as a consequence, donating training material is feasible for
>     those who
>     do mainly coding, less so for who live mostly on training
>     * our aim is to give a fair advantage to those who contribute to
>     the project
>     * the requirement to show the training material comes primarily
>     from the
>     need to check the quality of the training
>     * we all would like to see free training material, but nobody sees
>     this
>     as a blocker (?)
>     * even if free, the material could be useless for us (e.g. extracting
>     content from pdf slides can be painful), and cheating is very easy
>     * we want to move forward.
>
>     A possible solution would be:
>     * require to submit the training material to the committee for
>     evaluation, which is a critical step in acceptance
>     * suggest to submit in a source, text form (rst or md) following our
>     documentation style, if possible
>     * require an explicit licence for the material, suggesting a CC-BY-SA
>     whenever possible.
>
>     As for the evaluation, we agreed that there are no good and simple
>     measures for contribution. Because of this we decided to let
>     proponents
>     show what they have done, and evaluate each proposal.
>     I am not sure a bronze sponsorship is enough for this: in fact this
>     would equate to a cheap entry fee to be accepted. I would leave
>     sponsoring out of the evaluation.
>
>     All the best.
>
>     -- 
>     Paolo Cavallini - www.faunalia.eu <http://www.faunalia.eu>
>     QGIS.ORG <http://QGIS.ORG> Chair:
>     http://planet.qgis.org/planet/user/28/tag/qgis%20board/
>
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