[Qgis-psc] QGIS Mac Packaging project migration

Sun Jul 14 16:21:11 PDT 2019

Hey all,

Are we good to do the official release on these?

- Blog post
- Tweet
- Update website.

I can do a PR for the website soon once I remember where the links are
updated from.

@Saber Razmjooei <saber.razmjooei at lutraconsulting.co.uk> how does the blog
post looked that you drafted up?

Regards,
Nathan

On Sun, Jun 30, 2019 at 5:27 AM Tim Sutton <tim at kartoza.com> wrote:

> If you write it I can post it on the QGIS blog.
>
> Regards
>
> Tim Sutton
> Co-founder of Kartoza
> Ex-QGIS project chairman
>
> On 29 Jun 2019, at 14:03, Saber Razmjooei <
> saber.razmjooei at lutraconsulting.co.uk> wrote:
>
> I propose writing a blog post (happy to draft one) with the details so
> that users can differentiate between the two installers.
>
> Cheers
> Saber
>
>
>
> On Sat, 29 Jun 2019 at 13:54, Nathan Woodrow <madmanwoo at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Great.  If others are happy could we update the website and put a tweet
>> out to say they are using the new packages?
>>
>> On Sat, Jun 29, 2019 at 9:19 PM Tim Sutton <tim at kartoza.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi
>>>
>>> Yes I've tested them a lot and from my POV they are
>>> Good to go.
>>>
>>> Regards
>>>
>>> Tim
>>>
>>> On Sat, 29 Jun 2019, 02:59 Nathan Woodrow, <madmanwoo at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hey all,
>>>>
>>>> There still seems to be some confusion in regards to the state of the
>>>> OS X installers.  From my understanding, the new Lutra installers are good
>>>> to go. Is that correct?  These seem to be good?
>>>> https://qgis.org/downloads/macos/ If so could we have the website
>>>> updated to use those new installers and add a section (ior not) for the
>>>> older installers?  The website still points to
>>>> https://qgis.org/downloads/macOS/
>>>>
>>>> Clearing this up for our OS X users would be great to avoid people
>>>> getting a bad experience with QGIS and allow us to focus on making QGIS
>>>> better for everyone.
>>>>
>>>> Regards,
>>>> Nathan
>>>>
>>>> On Wed, Jun 26, 2019 at 5:58 AM DelazJ <delazj at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Thanks Saber for the explanation/confirmation. I was wondering if the
>>>>> process was different from Windows.
>>>>>
>>>>> Kind regards,
>>>>> Harrissou
>>>>>
>>>>> Le mar. 25 juin 2019 à 21:02, Saber Razmjooei <
>>>>> saber.razmjooei at lutraconsulting.co.uk> a écrit :
>>>>>
>>>>>> And in terms of licences, the same exact licence from Windows
>>>>>> installer is prompted to user....not sure if we need to apply for another
>>>>>> licence for this installer or we can use the one obtained a while back for
>>>>>> other OSes and packing.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Regards
>>>>>> Saber
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Tue, 25 Jun 2019 at 19:55, Saber Razmjooei <
>>>>>> saber.razmjooei at lutraconsulting.co.uk> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hi Harrissou,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> QGIS one-click installer is very similar to MS Windows installer,
>>>>>>> where all the required libraries (including GDAL 3rd party drivers) are
>>>>>>> included within the installer.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> And yes, the one-click installer, does not support 10.12 due to some
>>>>>>> Python issue.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Kind regards
>>>>>>> Saber
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Tue, 25 Jun 2019 at 18:52, DelazJ <delazj at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Thanks Peter for the summary (though the multiple versions
>>>>>>>> side-by-side also applies to kyngchaos, and I guess 10.12 support could be
>>>>>>>> part of the items)
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I'm stuck to 10.12 and from what I read, the all-in-one package
>>>>>>>> does not (yet? fully?) support it so I'm glad kyngchaos package is there.
>>>>>>>> But my question (actually addressed to PSC) is whether we need to
>>>>>>>> keep/advertise the two packages (now? or in the long run?).
>>>>>>>> And IF we go with the all-in-one package (only), since it engages
>>>>>>>> QGIS.ORG, I wonder if we should question the 3rd party plugins
>>>>>>>> embarked. I'm referring to this discussion [0] unless I misunderstand it or
>>>>>>>> things have changed in the meantime.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> [0]
>>>>>>>> http://osgeo-org.1560.x6.nabble.com/problems-MAC-and-ecw-raster-files-td5399125.html
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Best regards,
>>>>>>>> Harrissou
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Le mar. 25 juin 2019 à 12:48, Peter Petrik <
>>>>>>>> peter.petrik at lutraconsulting.co.uk> a écrit :
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Tim,
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> it is not straightforward in the current package, but possible.
>>>>>>>>> There are multiple ways how to do it, but I have an impression it is not
>>>>>>>>> something majority of user need. The plugins should have its dependancies
>>>>>>>>> sorted out by package manager or they should be bundled as wheel in plugins
>>>>>>>>> if needed.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Peter
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Jun 25, 2019 at 12:38 PM Tim Sutton <tim at kartoza.com>
>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Hi Peter
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Did you ever manage to get something set up so that you can pip
>>>>>>>>>> install extra packages into the included python in the package folder?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Regards
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Tim
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On 25 Jun 2019, at 11:13, Peter Petrik <
>>>>>>>>>> peter.petrik at lutraconsulting.co.uk> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> differences:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> old-system (kyngchaos):
>>>>>>>>>> - separately installed python
>>>>>>>>>> - separately installed gdal + its modules
>>>>>>>>>> - 3rd party providers of gdal not included (must be installed
>>>>>>>>>> separately)
>>>>>>>>>> - not signed (users needs to install unsigned package)
>>>>>>>>>> - no nightly builds, no public repository of used scripts
>>>>>>>>>> - well tested over years
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> new-system
>>>>>>>>>> - python, gdal, 3rd party modules, ... bundled in one single DMG
>>>>>>>>>> package
>>>>>>>>>> - 3-clicks install (download, accept T&C, drop to /Applications)
>>>>>>>>>> - signed by OSGeo (Apple) certificate
>>>>>>>>>> - nightly builds, public repo with all scripts used (cooperative
>>>>>>>>>> maintenance)
>>>>>>>>>> - multiple versions side-by-side
>>>>>>>>>> - new system, only partially tested during development and
>>>>>>>>>> prototyping by few (hundred) users
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>>>>>> Peter
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Jun 25, 2019 at 10:56 AM Nyall Dawson <
>>>>>>>>>> nyall.dawson at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, 25 Jun 2019 at 17:30, Tim Sutton <tim at kartoza.com>
>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>>> > Hi Saber
>>>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>>> > On some builds there is an issue when opening any file dialog
>>>>>>>>>>> where it pauses for like 30s before returning control to the user. Let me
>>>>>>>>>>> test your latest binaries to check these are gone then +1 from me to
>>>>>>>>>>> publish & promote.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> For reference - this is
>>>>>>>>>>> https://github.com/qgis/QGIS/issues/28201, and
>>>>>>>>>>> is an issue on the NON lutra installs only!
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Nyall
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>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> —
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> *Tim Sutton*
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> *Co-founder:* Kartoza
>>>>>>>>>> *Ex Project chair:* QGIS.org
>>>>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>> Saber Razmjooei
>>>>>>> www.lutraconsulting.co.uk
>>>>>>> +44 (0)7568 129733
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> Saber Razmjooei
>>>>>> www.lutraconsulting.co.uk
>>>>>> +44 (0)7568 129733
>>>>>>
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