[Qgis-psc] QGIS Mac Packaging project migration

Sun Jul 14 22:37:02 PDT 2019

Ok I'm not sure how that is done, although I haven't really looked hard but
the rst for the page is empty.. Is that generated?

- Nathan

On Mon, Jul 15, 2019 at 3:34 PM Saber Razmjooei <
saber.razmjooei at lutraconsulting.co.uk> wrote:

> Hi Nathan,
>
> Tim has kindly reviewed the blog post. So, it should be ready to publish.
>
> The main remaining item was updating the website.
>
> Regards
> Saber
>
>
> On Mon, 15 Jul 2019 at 00:21, Nathan Woodrow <madmanwoo at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Hey all,
>>
>> Are we good to do the official release on these?
>>
>> - Blog post
>> - Tweet
>> - Update website.
>>
>> I can do a PR for the website soon once I remember where the links are
>> updated from.
>>
>> @Saber Razmjooei <saber.razmjooei at lutraconsulting.co.uk> how does the
>> blog post looked that you drafted up?
>>
>> Regards,
>> Nathan
>>
>> On Sun, Jun 30, 2019 at 5:27 AM Tim Sutton <tim at kartoza.com> wrote:
>>
>>> If you write it I can post it on the QGIS blog.
>>>
>>> Regards
>>>
>>> Tim Sutton
>>> Co-founder of Kartoza
>>> Ex-QGIS project chairman
>>>
>>> On 29 Jun 2019, at 14:03, Saber Razmjooei <
>>> saber.razmjooei at lutraconsulting.co.uk> wrote:
>>>
>>> I propose writing a blog post (happy to draft one) with the details so
>>> that users can differentiate between the two installers.
>>>
>>> Cheers
>>> Saber
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Sat, 29 Jun 2019 at 13:54, Nathan Woodrow <madmanwoo at gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Great.  If others are happy could we update the website and put a tweet
>>>> out to say they are using the new packages?
>>>>
>>>> On Sat, Jun 29, 2019 at 9:19 PM Tim Sutton <tim at kartoza.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Hi
>>>>>
>>>>> Yes I've tested them a lot and from my POV they are
>>>>> Good to go.
>>>>>
>>>>> Regards
>>>>>
>>>>> Tim
>>>>>
>>>>> On Sat, 29 Jun 2019, 02:59 Nathan Woodrow, <madmanwoo at gmail.com>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Hey all,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> There still seems to be some confusion in regards to the state of the
>>>>>> OS X installers.  From my understanding, the new Lutra installers are good
>>>>>> to go. Is that correct?  These seem to be good?
>>>>>> https://qgis.org/downloads/macos/ If so could we have the website
>>>>>> updated to use those new installers and add a section (ior not) for the
>>>>>> older installers?  The website still points to
>>>>>> https://qgis.org/downloads/macOS/
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Clearing this up for our OS X users would be great to avoid people
>>>>>> getting a bad experience with QGIS and allow us to focus on making QGIS
>>>>>> better for everyone.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>> Nathan
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Wed, Jun 26, 2019 at 5:58 AM DelazJ <delazj at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Thanks Saber for the explanation/confirmation. I was wondering if
>>>>>>> the process was different from Windows.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Kind regards,
>>>>>>> Harrissou
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Le mar. 25 juin 2019 à 21:02, Saber Razmjooei <
>>>>>>> saber.razmjooei at lutraconsulting.co.uk> a écrit :
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> And in terms of licences, the same exact licence from Windows
>>>>>>>> installer is prompted to user....not sure if we need to apply for another
>>>>>>>> licence for this installer or we can use the one obtained a while back for
>>>>>>>> other OSes and packing.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Regards
>>>>>>>> Saber
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Tue, 25 Jun 2019 at 19:55, Saber Razmjooei <
>>>>>>>> saber.razmjooei at lutraconsulting.co.uk> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Hi Harrissou,
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> QGIS one-click installer is very similar to MS Windows installer,
>>>>>>>>> where all the required libraries (including GDAL 3rd party drivers) are
>>>>>>>>> included within the installer.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> And yes, the one-click installer, does not support 10.12 due to
>>>>>>>>> some Python issue.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Kind regards
>>>>>>>>> Saber
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Tue, 25 Jun 2019 at 18:52, DelazJ <delazj at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Thanks Peter for the summary (though the multiple versions
>>>>>>>>>> side-by-side also applies to kyngchaos, and I guess 10.12 support could be
>>>>>>>>>> part of the items)
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I'm stuck to 10.12 and from what I read, the all-in-one package
>>>>>>>>>> does not (yet? fully?) support it so I'm glad kyngchaos package is there.
>>>>>>>>>> But my question (actually addressed to PSC) is whether we need to
>>>>>>>>>> keep/advertise the two packages (now? or in the long run?).
>>>>>>>>>> And IF we go with the all-in-one package (only), since it engages
>>>>>>>>>> QGIS.ORG, I wonder if we should question the 3rd party plugins
>>>>>>>>>> embarked. I'm referring to this discussion [0] unless I misunderstand it or
>>>>>>>>>> things have changed in the meantime.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> [0]
>>>>>>>>>> http://osgeo-org.1560.x6.nabble.com/problems-MAC-and-ecw-raster-files-td5399125.html
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Best regards,
>>>>>>>>>> Harrissou
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Le mar. 25 juin 2019 à 12:48, Peter Petrik <
>>>>>>>>>> peter.petrik at lutraconsulting.co.uk> a écrit :
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Tim,
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> it is not straightforward in the current package, but possible.
>>>>>>>>>>> There are multiple ways how to do it, but I have an impression it is not
>>>>>>>>>>> something majority of user need. The plugins should have its dependancies
>>>>>>>>>>> sorted out by package manager or they should be bundled as wheel in plugins
>>>>>>>>>>> if needed.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Peter
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Jun 25, 2019 at 12:38 PM Tim Sutton <tim at kartoza.com>
>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi Peter
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Did you ever manage to get something set up so that you can pip
>>>>>>>>>>>> install extra packages into the included python in the package folder?
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Regards
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Tim
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> On 25 Jun 2019, at 11:13, Peter Petrik <
>>>>>>>>>>>> peter.petrik at lutraconsulting.co.uk> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> differences:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> old-system (kyngchaos):
>>>>>>>>>>>> - separately installed python
>>>>>>>>>>>> - separately installed gdal + its modules
>>>>>>>>>>>> - 3rd party providers of gdal not included (must be installed
>>>>>>>>>>>> separately)
>>>>>>>>>>>> - not signed (users needs to install unsigned package)
>>>>>>>>>>>> - no nightly builds, no public repository of used scripts
>>>>>>>>>>>> - well tested over years
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> new-system
>>>>>>>>>>>> - python, gdal, 3rd party modules, ... bundled in one single
>>>>>>>>>>>> DMG package
>>>>>>>>>>>> - 3-clicks install (download, accept T&C, drop to /Applications)
>>>>>>>>>>>> - signed by OSGeo (Apple) certificate
>>>>>>>>>>>> - nightly builds, public repo with all scripts used
>>>>>>>>>>>> (cooperative maintenance)
>>>>>>>>>>>> - multiple versions side-by-side
>>>>>>>>>>>> - new system, only partially tested during development and
>>>>>>>>>>>> prototyping by few (hundred) users
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>>>>>>>> Peter
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Jun 25, 2019 at 10:56 AM Nyall Dawson <
>>>>>>>>>>>> nyall.dawson at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, 25 Jun 2019 at 17:30, Tim Sutton <tim at kartoza.com>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>>>>> > Hi Saber
>>>>>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>>>>> > On some builds there is an issue when opening any file
>>>>>>>>>>>>> dialog where it pauses for like 30s before returning control to the user.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Let me test your latest binaries to check these are gone then +1 from me to
>>>>>>>>>>>>> publish & promote.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> For reference - this is
>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://github.com/qgis/QGIS/issues/28201, and
>>>>>>>>>>>>> is an issue on the NON lutra installs only!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Nyall
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>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> —
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> *Tim Sutton*
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> *Co-founder:* Kartoza
>>>>>>>>>>>> *Ex Project chair:* QGIS.org
>>>>>>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>> Saber Razmjooei
>>>>>>>>> www.lutraconsulting.co.uk
>>>>>>>>> +44 (0)7568 129733
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>> Saber Razmjooei
>>>>>>>> www.lutraconsulting.co.uk
>>>>>>>> +44 (0)7568 129733
>>>>>>>>
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>>>
>
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