[Qgis-psc] QGIS Mac Packaging project migration

Mon Jul 15 01:16:20 PDT 2019

Last time, it took me a while to change a link :(

Regards
Saber

On Mon, 15 Jul 2019 at 06:37, Nathan Woodrow <madmanwoo at gmail.com> wrote:

> Ok I'm not sure how that is done, although I haven't really looked hard
> but the rst for the page is empty.. Is that generated?
>
> - Nathan
>
> On Mon, Jul 15, 2019 at 3:34 PM Saber Razmjooei <
> saber.razmjooei at lutraconsulting.co.uk> wrote:
>
>> Hi Nathan,
>>
>> Tim has kindly reviewed the blog post. So, it should be ready to publish.
>>
>> The main remaining item was updating the website.
>>
>> Regards
>> Saber
>>
>>
>> On Mon, 15 Jul 2019 at 00:21, Nathan Woodrow <madmanwoo at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Hey all,
>>>
>>> Are we good to do the official release on these?
>>>
>>> - Blog post
>>> - Tweet
>>> - Update website.
>>>
>>> I can do a PR for the website soon once I remember where the links are
>>> updated from.
>>>
>>> @Saber Razmjooei <saber.razmjooei at lutraconsulting.co.uk> how does the
>>> blog post looked that you drafted up?
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>> Nathan
>>>
>>> On Sun, Jun 30, 2019 at 5:27 AM Tim Sutton <tim at kartoza.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> If you write it I can post it on the QGIS blog.
>>>>
>>>> Regards
>>>>
>>>> Tim Sutton
>>>> Co-founder of Kartoza
>>>> Ex-QGIS project chairman
>>>>
>>>> On 29 Jun 2019, at 14:03, Saber Razmjooei <
>>>> saber.razmjooei at lutraconsulting.co.uk> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> I propose writing a blog post (happy to draft one) with the details so
>>>> that users can differentiate between the two installers.
>>>>
>>>> Cheers
>>>> Saber
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Sat, 29 Jun 2019 at 13:54, Nathan Woodrow <madmanwoo at gmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Great.  If others are happy could we update the website and put a
>>>>> tweet out to say they are using the new packages?
>>>>>
>>>>> On Sat, Jun 29, 2019 at 9:19 PM Tim Sutton <tim at kartoza.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Yes I've tested them a lot and from my POV they are
>>>>>> Good to go.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Regards
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Tim
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Sat, 29 Jun 2019, 02:59 Nathan Woodrow, <madmanwoo at gmail.com>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hey all,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> There still seems to be some confusion in regards to the state of
>>>>>>> the OS X installers.  From my understanding, the new Lutra installers are
>>>>>>> good to go. Is that correct?  These seem to be good?
>>>>>>> https://qgis.org/downloads/macos/ If so could we have the website
>>>>>>> updated to use those new installers and add a section (ior not) for the
>>>>>>> older installers?  The website still points to
>>>>>>> https://qgis.org/downloads/macOS/
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Clearing this up for our OS X users would be great to avoid people
>>>>>>> getting a bad experience with QGIS and allow us to focus on making QGIS
>>>>>>> better for everyone.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>>> Nathan
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Wed, Jun 26, 2019 at 5:58 AM DelazJ <delazj at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Thanks Saber for the explanation/confirmation. I was wondering if
>>>>>>>> the process was different from Windows.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Kind regards,
>>>>>>>> Harrissou
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Le mar. 25 juin 2019 à 21:02, Saber Razmjooei <
>>>>>>>> saber.razmjooei at lutraconsulting.co.uk> a écrit :
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> And in terms of licences, the same exact licence from Windows
>>>>>>>>> installer is prompted to user....not sure if we need to apply for another
>>>>>>>>> licence for this installer or we can use the one obtained a while back for
>>>>>>>>> other OSes and packing.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Regards
>>>>>>>>> Saber
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Tue, 25 Jun 2019 at 19:55, Saber Razmjooei <
>>>>>>>>> saber.razmjooei at lutraconsulting.co.uk> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Hi Harrissou,
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> QGIS one-click installer is very similar to MS Windows installer,
>>>>>>>>>> where all the required libraries (including GDAL 3rd party drivers) are
>>>>>>>>>> included within the installer.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> And yes, the one-click installer, does not support 10.12 due to
>>>>>>>>>> some Python issue.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Kind regards
>>>>>>>>>> Saber
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, 25 Jun 2019 at 18:52, DelazJ <delazj at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks Peter for the summary (though the multiple versions
>>>>>>>>>>> side-by-side also applies to kyngchaos, and I guess 10.12 support could be
>>>>>>>>>>> part of the items)
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> I'm stuck to 10.12 and from what I read, the all-in-one package
>>>>>>>>>>> does not (yet? fully?) support it so I'm glad kyngchaos package is there.
>>>>>>>>>>> But my question (actually addressed to PSC) is whether we need to
>>>>>>>>>>> keep/advertise the two packages (now? or in the long run?).
>>>>>>>>>>> And IF we go with the all-in-one package (only), since it
>>>>>>>>>>> engages QGIS.ORG, I wonder if we should question the 3rd party
>>>>>>>>>>> plugins embarked. I'm referring to this discussion [0] unless I
>>>>>>>>>>> misunderstand it or things have changed in the meantime.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> [0]
>>>>>>>>>>> http://osgeo-org.1560.x6.nabble.com/problems-MAC-and-ecw-raster-files-td5399125.html
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Best regards,
>>>>>>>>>>> Harrissou
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Le mar. 25 juin 2019 à 12:48, Peter Petrik <
>>>>>>>>>>> peter.petrik at lutraconsulting.co.uk> a écrit :
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Tim,
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> it is not straightforward in the current package, but possible.
>>>>>>>>>>>> There are multiple ways how to do it, but I have an impression it is not
>>>>>>>>>>>> something majority of user need. The plugins should have its dependancies
>>>>>>>>>>>> sorted out by package manager or they should be bundled as wheel in plugins
>>>>>>>>>>>> if needed.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Peter
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Jun 25, 2019 at 12:38 PM Tim Sutton <tim at kartoza.com>
>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi Peter
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Did you ever manage to get something set up so that you can
>>>>>>>>>>>>> pip install extra packages into the included python in the package folder?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Regards
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Tim
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 25 Jun 2019, at 11:13, Peter Petrik <
>>>>>>>>>>>>> peter.petrik at lutraconsulting.co.uk> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> differences:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> old-system (kyngchaos):
>>>>>>>>>>>>> - separately installed python
>>>>>>>>>>>>> - separately installed gdal + its modules
>>>>>>>>>>>>> - 3rd party providers of gdal not included (must be installed
>>>>>>>>>>>>> separately)
>>>>>>>>>>>>> - not signed (users needs to install unsigned package)
>>>>>>>>>>>>> - no nightly builds, no public repository of used scripts
>>>>>>>>>>>>> - well tested over years
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> new-system
>>>>>>>>>>>>> - python, gdal, 3rd party modules, ... bundled in one single
>>>>>>>>>>>>> DMG package
>>>>>>>>>>>>> - 3-clicks install (download, accept T&C, drop to
>>>>>>>>>>>>> /Applications)
>>>>>>>>>>>>> - signed by OSGeo (Apple) certificate
>>>>>>>>>>>>> - nightly builds, public repo with all scripts used
>>>>>>>>>>>>> (cooperative maintenance)
>>>>>>>>>>>>> - multiple versions side-by-side
>>>>>>>>>>>>> - new system, only partially tested during development and
>>>>>>>>>>>>> prototyping by few (hundred) users
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Peter
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Jun 25, 2019 at 10:56 AM Nyall Dawson <
>>>>>>>>>>>>> nyall.dawson at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, 25 Jun 2019 at 17:30, Tim Sutton <tim at kartoza.com>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > Hi Saber
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > On some builds there is an issue when opening any file
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> dialog where it pauses for like 30s before returning control to the user.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Let me test your latest binaries to check these are gone then +1 from me to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> publish & promote.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> For reference - this is
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://github.com/qgis/QGIS/issues/28201, and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> is an issue on the NON lutra installs only!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Nyall
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>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> —
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> *Tim Sutton*
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> *Co-founder:* Kartoza
>>>>>>>>>>>>> *Ex Project chair:* QGIS.org
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>> Saber Razmjooei
>>>>>>>>>> www.lutraconsulting.co.uk
>>>>>>>>>> +44 (0)7568 129733
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>> Saber Razmjooei
>>>>>>>>> www.lutraconsulting.co.uk
>>>>>>>>> +44 (0)7568 129733
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>>>> +44 (0)7568 129733
>>>>
>>>>
>>
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>> Saber Razmjooei
>> www.lutraconsulting.co.uk
>> +44 (0)7568 129733
>>
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www.lutraconsulting.co.uk
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