[Qgis-psc] QGIS Mac Packaging project migration

DelazJ delazj at gmail.com
Tue Jul 16 21:06:32 PDT 2019 

Hi
Nathan, if you are referring to the main download page [0] whose source
file, accessible through the "fix me" button like any other page, is empty,
then I think it's generated and you might instead look at [1]
Other than that, I think there are some more places the information needs
to be clarified:
- the macOS Installers description section [2]
- the link to macOS older releases shown in the "All releases" tab of [0] -
see also [3] for related concerns

HTH,
Harrissou

[0] https://qgis.org/en/site/forusers/download.html
[1]
https://github.com/qgis/QGIS-Website/blob/master/themes/qgis-theme/forusers_download.html
[2] https://qgis.org/en/site/forusers/alldownloads.html#mac-os-x-macos
[3] https://github.com/qgis/QGIS/issues/29380


Le lun. 15 juil. 2019 à 10:16, Saber Razmjooei <
saber.razmjooei at lutraconsulting.co.uk> a écrit :

> Last time, it took me a while to change a link :(
>
> Regards
> Saber
>
> On Mon, 15 Jul 2019 at 06:37, Nathan Woodrow <madmanwoo at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Ok I'm not sure how that is done, although I haven't really looked hard
>> but the rst for the page is empty.. Is that generated?
>>
>> - Nathan
>>
>> On Mon, Jul 15, 2019 at 3:34 PM Saber Razmjooei <
>> saber.razmjooei at lutraconsulting.co.uk> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Nathan,
>>>
>>> Tim has kindly reviewed the blog post. So, it should be ready to
>>> publish.
>>>
>>> The main remaining item was updating the website.
>>>
>>> Regards
>>> Saber
>>>
>>>
>>> On Mon, 15 Jul 2019 at 00:21, Nathan Woodrow <madmanwoo at gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hey all,
>>>>
>>>> Are we good to do the official release on these?
>>>>
>>>> - Blog post
>>>> - Tweet
>>>> - Update website.
>>>>
>>>> I can do a PR for the website soon once I remember where the links are
>>>> updated from.
>>>>
>>>> @Saber Razmjooei <saber.razmjooei at lutraconsulting.co.uk> how does the
>>>> blog post looked that you drafted up?
>>>>
>>>> Regards,
>>>> Nathan
>>>>
>>>> On Sun, Jun 30, 2019 at 5:27 AM Tim Sutton <tim at kartoza.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> If you write it I can post it on the QGIS blog.
>>>>>
>>>>> Regards
>>>>>
>>>>> Tim Sutton
>>>>> Co-founder of Kartoza
>>>>> Ex-QGIS project chairman
>>>>>
>>>>> On 29 Jun 2019, at 14:03, Saber Razmjooei <
>>>>> saber.razmjooei at lutraconsulting.co.uk> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> I propose writing a blog post (happy to draft one) with the details so
>>>>> that users can differentiate between the two installers.
>>>>>
>>>>> Cheers
>>>>> Saber
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Sat, 29 Jun 2019 at 13:54, Nathan Woodrow <madmanwoo at gmail.com>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Great.  If others are happy could we update the website and put a
>>>>>> tweet out to say they are using the new packages?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Sat, Jun 29, 2019 at 9:19 PM Tim Sutton <tim at kartoza.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hi
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Yes I've tested them a lot and from my POV they are
>>>>>>> Good to go.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Regards
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Tim
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Sat, 29 Jun 2019, 02:59 Nathan Woodrow, <madmanwoo at gmail.com>
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Hey all,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> There still seems to be some confusion in regards to the state of
>>>>>>>> the OS X installers.  From my understanding, the new Lutra installers are
>>>>>>>> good to go. Is that correct?  These seem to be good?
>>>>>>>> https://qgis.org/downloads/macos/ If so could we have the website
>>>>>>>> updated to use those new installers and add a section (ior not) for the
>>>>>>>> older installers?  The website still points to
>>>>>>>> https://qgis.org/downloads/macOS/
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Clearing this up for our OS X users would be great to avoid people
>>>>>>>> getting a bad experience with QGIS and allow us to focus on making QGIS
>>>>>>>> better for everyone.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>>>> Nathan
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Wed, Jun 26, 2019 at 5:58 AM DelazJ <delazj at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Thanks Saber for the explanation/confirmation. I was wondering if
>>>>>>>>> the process was different from Windows.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Kind regards,
>>>>>>>>> Harrissou
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Le mar. 25 juin 2019 à 21:02, Saber Razmjooei <
>>>>>>>>> saber.razmjooei at lutraconsulting.co.uk> a écrit :
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> And in terms of licences, the same exact licence from Windows
>>>>>>>>>> installer is prompted to user....not sure if we need to apply for another
>>>>>>>>>> licence for this installer or we can use the one obtained a while back for
>>>>>>>>>> other OSes and packing.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Regards
>>>>>>>>>> Saber
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, 25 Jun 2019 at 19:55, Saber Razmjooei <
>>>>>>>>>> saber.razmjooei at lutraconsulting.co.uk> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Hi Harrissou,
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> QGIS one-click installer is very similar to MS Windows
>>>>>>>>>>> installer, where all the required libraries (including GDAL 3rd party
>>>>>>>>>>> drivers) are included within the installer.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> And yes, the one-click installer, does not support 10.12 due to
>>>>>>>>>>> some Python issue.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Kind regards
>>>>>>>>>>> Saber
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, 25 Jun 2019 at 18:52, DelazJ <delazj at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks Peter for the summary (though the multiple versions
>>>>>>>>>>>> side-by-side also applies to kyngchaos, and I guess 10.12 support could be
>>>>>>>>>>>> part of the items)
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm stuck to 10.12 and from what I read, the all-in-one package
>>>>>>>>>>>> does not (yet? fully?) support it so I'm glad kyngchaos package is there.
>>>>>>>>>>>> But my question (actually addressed to PSC) is whether we need to
>>>>>>>>>>>> keep/advertise the two packages (now? or in the long run?).
>>>>>>>>>>>> And IF we go with the all-in-one package (only), since it
>>>>>>>>>>>> engages QGIS.ORG, I wonder if we should question the 3rd party
>>>>>>>>>>>> plugins embarked. I'm referring to this discussion [0] unless I
>>>>>>>>>>>> misunderstand it or things have changed in the meantime.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> [0]
>>>>>>>>>>>> http://osgeo-org.1560.x6.nabble.com/problems-MAC-and-ecw-raster-files-td5399125.html
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Best regards,
>>>>>>>>>>>> Harrissou
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Le mar. 25 juin 2019 à 12:48, Peter Petrik <
>>>>>>>>>>>> peter.petrik at lutraconsulting.co.uk> a écrit :
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Tim,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> it is not straightforward in the current package, but
>>>>>>>>>>>>> possible. There are multiple ways how to do it, but I have an impression it
>>>>>>>>>>>>> is not something majority of user need. The plugins should have its
>>>>>>>>>>>>> dependancies sorted out by package manager or they should be bundled as
>>>>>>>>>>>>> wheel in plugins if needed.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Peter
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Jun 25, 2019 at 12:38 PM Tim Sutton <tim at kartoza.com>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi Peter
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Did you ever manage to get something set up so that you can
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> pip install extra packages into the included python in the package folder?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Regards
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Tim
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 25 Jun 2019, at 11:13, Peter Petrik <
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> peter.petrik at lutraconsulting.co.uk> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> differences:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> old-system (kyngchaos):
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> - separately installed python
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> - separately installed gdal + its modules
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> - 3rd party providers of gdal not included (must be installed
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> separately)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> - not signed (users needs to install unsigned package)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> - no nightly builds, no public repository of used scripts
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> - well tested over years
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> new-system
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> - python, gdal, 3rd party modules, ... bundled in one single
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> DMG package
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> - 3-clicks install (download, accept T&C, drop to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> /Applications)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> - signed by OSGeo (Apple) certificate
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> - nightly builds, public repo with all scripts used
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (cooperative maintenance)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> - multiple versions side-by-side
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> - new system, only partially tested during development and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> prototyping by few (hundred) users
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Peter
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Jun 25, 2019 at 10:56 AM Nyall Dawson <
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> nyall.dawson at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, 25 Jun 2019 at 17:30, Tim Sutton <tim at kartoza.com>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > Hi Saber
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > On some builds there is an issue when opening any file
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> dialog where it pauses for like 30s before returning control to the user.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Let me test your latest binaries to check these are gone then +1 from me to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> publish & promote.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> For reference - this is
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://github.com/qgis/QGIS/issues/28201, and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> is an issue on the NON lutra installs only!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Nyall
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>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> —
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> *Tim Sutton*
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> *Co-founder:* Kartoza
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> *Ex Project chair:* QGIS.org
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>> Saber Razmjooei
>>>>>>>>>>> www.lutraconsulting.co.uk
>>>>>>>>>>> +44 (0)7568 129733
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>> Saber Razmjooei
>>>>>>>>>> www.lutraconsulting.co.uk
>>>>>>>>>> +44 (0)7568 129733
>>>>>>>>>>
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>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> Saber Razmjooei
>>>>> www.lutraconsulting.co.uk
>>>>> +44 (0)7568 129733
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> Saber Razmjooei
>>> www.lutraconsulting.co.uk
>>> +44 (0)7568 129733
>>>
>>
>
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