[Qgis-psc] QGIS Mac Packaging project migration

Fri Jun 28 18:59:34 PDT 2019

Hey all,

There still seems to be some confusion in regards to the state of the OS X
installers.  From my understanding, the new Lutra installers are good to
go. Is that correct?  These seem to be good?
https://qgis.org/downloads/macos/ If so could we have the website updated
to use those new installers and add a section (ior not) for the older
installers?  The website still points to https://qgis.org/downloads/macOS/

Clearing this up for our OS X users would be great to avoid people getting
a bad experience with QGIS and allow us to focus on making QGIS better for
everyone.

Regards,
Nathan

On Wed, Jun 26, 2019 at 5:58 AM DelazJ <delazj at gmail.com> wrote:

> Thanks Saber for the explanation/confirmation. I was wondering if the
> process was different from Windows.
>
> Kind regards,
> Harrissou
>
> Le mar. 25 juin 2019 à 21:02, Saber Razmjooei <
> saber.razmjooei at lutraconsulting.co.uk> a écrit :
>
>> And in terms of licences, the same exact licence from Windows installer
>> is prompted to user....not sure if we need to apply for another licence for
>> this installer or we can use the one obtained a while back for other OSes
>> and packing.
>>
>> Regards
>> Saber
>>
>>
>> On Tue, 25 Jun 2019 at 19:55, Saber Razmjooei <
>> saber.razmjooei at lutraconsulting.co.uk> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Harrissou,
>>>
>>> QGIS one-click installer is very similar to MS Windows installer, where
>>> all the required libraries (including GDAL 3rd party drivers) are included
>>> within the installer.
>>>
>>> And yes, the one-click installer, does not support 10.12 due to some
>>> Python issue.
>>>
>>> Kind regards
>>> Saber
>>>
>>>
>>> On Tue, 25 Jun 2019 at 18:52, DelazJ <delazj at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Thanks Peter for the summary (though the multiple versions side-by-side
>>>> also applies to kyngchaos, and I guess 10.12 support could be part of the
>>>> items)
>>>>
>>>> I'm stuck to 10.12 and from what I read, the all-in-one package does
>>>> not (yet? fully?) support it so I'm glad kyngchaos package is there. But my
>>>> question (actually addressed to PSC) is whether we need to keep/advertise
>>>> the two packages (now? or in the long run?).
>>>> And IF we go with the all-in-one package (only), since it engages
>>>> QGIS.ORG, I wonder if we should question the 3rd party plugins
>>>> embarked. I'm referring to this discussion [0] unless I misunderstand it or
>>>> things have changed in the meantime.
>>>>
>>>> [0]
>>>> http://osgeo-org.1560.x6.nabble.com/problems-MAC-and-ecw-raster-files-td5399125.html
>>>>
>>>> Best regards,
>>>> Harrissou
>>>>
>>>> Le mar. 25 juin 2019 à 12:48, Peter Petrik <
>>>> peter.petrik at lutraconsulting.co.uk> a écrit :
>>>>
>>>>> Tim,
>>>>>
>>>>> it is not straightforward in the current package, but possible. There
>>>>> are multiple ways how to do it, but I have an impression it is not
>>>>> something majority of user need. The plugins should have its dependancies
>>>>> sorted out by package manager or they should be bundled as wheel in plugins
>>>>> if needed.
>>>>>
>>>>> Peter
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Tue, Jun 25, 2019 at 12:38 PM Tim Sutton <tim at kartoza.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi Peter
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Did you ever manage to get something set up so that you can pip
>>>>>> install extra packages into the included python in the package folder?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Regards
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Tim
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 25 Jun 2019, at 11:13, Peter Petrik <
>>>>>> peter.petrik at lutraconsulting.co.uk> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> differences:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> old-system (kyngchaos):
>>>>>> - separately installed python
>>>>>> - separately installed gdal + its modules
>>>>>> - 3rd party providers of gdal not included (must be installed
>>>>>> separately)
>>>>>> - not signed (users needs to install unsigned package)
>>>>>> - no nightly builds, no public repository of used scripts
>>>>>> - well tested over years
>>>>>>
>>>>>> new-system
>>>>>> - python, gdal, 3rd party modules, ... bundled in one single DMG
>>>>>> package
>>>>>> - 3-clicks install (download, accept T&C, drop to /Applications)
>>>>>> - signed by OSGeo (Apple) certificate
>>>>>> - nightly builds, public repo with all scripts used (cooperative
>>>>>> maintenance)
>>>>>> - multiple versions side-by-side
>>>>>> - new system, only partially tested during development and
>>>>>> prototyping by few (hundred) users
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>> Peter
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Tue, Jun 25, 2019 at 10:56 AM Nyall Dawson <nyall.dawson at gmail.com>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Tue, 25 Jun 2019 at 17:30, Tim Sutton <tim at kartoza.com> wrote:
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> > Hi Saber
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> > On some builds there is an issue when opening any file dialog
>>>>>>> where it pauses for like 30s before returning control to the user. Let me
>>>>>>> test your latest binaries to check these are gone then +1 from me to
>>>>>>> publish & promote.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> For reference - this is https://github.com/qgis/QGIS/issues/28201,
>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>> is an issue on the NON lutra installs only!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Nyall
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>>>>>>
>>>>>> —
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> *Tim Sutton*
>>>>>>
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>>>>>> *Ex Project chair:* QGIS.org
>>>>>>
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>>>>>>
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>>>>>>
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>>> Saber Razmjooei
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>>> +44 (0)7568 129733
>>>
>>
>>
>> --
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>> +44 (0)7568 129733
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