[Qgis-psc] QGIS Mac Packaging project migration

Tim Sutton tim at kartoza.com
Sat Jun 29 04:19:13 PDT 2019


Hi

Yes I've tested them a lot and from my POV they are
Good to go.

Regards

Tim

On Sat, 29 Jun 2019, 02:59 Nathan Woodrow, <madmanwoo at gmail.com> wrote:

> Hey all,
>
> There still seems to be some confusion in regards to the state of the OS X
> installers.  From my understanding, the new Lutra installers are good to
> go. Is that correct?  These seem to be good?
> https://qgis.org/downloads/macos/ If so could we have the website updated
> to use those new installers and add a section (ior not) for the older
> installers?  The website still points to https://qgis.org/downloads/macOS/
>
> Clearing this up for our OS X users would be great to avoid people getting
> a bad experience with QGIS and allow us to focus on making QGIS better for
> everyone.
>
> Regards,
> Nathan
>
> On Wed, Jun 26, 2019 at 5:58 AM DelazJ <delazj at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Thanks Saber for the explanation/confirmation. I was wondering if the
>> process was different from Windows.
>>
>> Kind regards,
>> Harrissou
>>
>> Le mar. 25 juin 2019 à 21:02, Saber Razmjooei <
>> saber.razmjooei at lutraconsulting.co.uk> a écrit :
>>
>>> And in terms of licences, the same exact licence from Windows installer
>>> is prompted to user....not sure if we need to apply for another licence for
>>> this installer or we can use the one obtained a while back for other OSes
>>> and packing.
>>>
>>> Regards
>>> Saber
>>>
>>>
>>> On Tue, 25 Jun 2019 at 19:55, Saber Razmjooei <
>>> saber.razmjooei at lutraconsulting.co.uk> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi Harrissou,
>>>>
>>>> QGIS one-click installer is very similar to MS Windows installer, where
>>>> all the required libraries (including GDAL 3rd party drivers) are included
>>>> within the installer.
>>>>
>>>> And yes, the one-click installer, does not support 10.12 due to some
>>>> Python issue.
>>>>
>>>> Kind regards
>>>> Saber
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Tue, 25 Jun 2019 at 18:52, DelazJ <delazj at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Thanks Peter for the summary (though the multiple versions
>>>>> side-by-side also applies to kyngchaos, and I guess 10.12 support could be
>>>>> part of the items)
>>>>>
>>>>> I'm stuck to 10.12 and from what I read, the all-in-one package does
>>>>> not (yet? fully?) support it so I'm glad kyngchaos package is there. But my
>>>>> question (actually addressed to PSC) is whether we need to keep/advertise
>>>>> the two packages (now? or in the long run?).
>>>>> And IF we go with the all-in-one package (only), since it engages
>>>>> QGIS.ORG, I wonder if we should question the 3rd party plugins
>>>>> embarked. I'm referring to this discussion [0] unless I misunderstand it or
>>>>> things have changed in the meantime.
>>>>>
>>>>> [0]
>>>>> http://osgeo-org.1560.x6.nabble.com/problems-MAC-and-ecw-raster-files-td5399125.html
>>>>>
>>>>> Best regards,
>>>>> Harrissou
>>>>>
>>>>> Le mar. 25 juin 2019 à 12:48, Peter Petrik <
>>>>> peter.petrik at lutraconsulting.co.uk> a écrit :
>>>>>
>>>>>> Tim,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> it is not straightforward in the current package, but possible. There
>>>>>> are multiple ways how to do it, but I have an impression it is not
>>>>>> something majority of user need. The plugins should have its dependancies
>>>>>> sorted out by package manager or they should be bundled as wheel in plugins
>>>>>> if needed.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Peter
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Tue, Jun 25, 2019 at 12:38 PM Tim Sutton <tim at kartoza.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hi Peter
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Did you ever manage to get something set up so that you can pip
>>>>>>> install extra packages into the included python in the package folder?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Regards
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Tim
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 25 Jun 2019, at 11:13, Peter Petrik <
>>>>>>> peter.petrik at lutraconsulting.co.uk> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> differences:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> old-system (kyngchaos):
>>>>>>> - separately installed python
>>>>>>> - separately installed gdal + its modules
>>>>>>> - 3rd party providers of gdal not included (must be installed
>>>>>>> separately)
>>>>>>> - not signed (users needs to install unsigned package)
>>>>>>> - no nightly builds, no public repository of used scripts
>>>>>>> - well tested over years
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> new-system
>>>>>>> - python, gdal, 3rd party modules, ... bundled in one single DMG
>>>>>>> package
>>>>>>> - 3-clicks install (download, accept T&C, drop to /Applications)
>>>>>>> - signed by OSGeo (Apple) certificate
>>>>>>> - nightly builds, public repo with all scripts used (cooperative
>>>>>>> maintenance)
>>>>>>> - multiple versions side-by-side
>>>>>>> - new system, only partially tested during development and
>>>>>>> prototyping by few (hundred) users
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>>> Peter
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Tue, Jun 25, 2019 at 10:56 AM Nyall Dawson <
>>>>>>> nyall.dawson at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Tue, 25 Jun 2019 at 17:30, Tim Sutton <tim at kartoza.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>> > Hi Saber
>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>> > On some builds there is an issue when opening any file dialog
>>>>>>>> where it pauses for like 30s before returning control to the user. Let me
>>>>>>>> test your latest binaries to check these are gone then +1 from me to
>>>>>>>> publish & promote.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> For reference - this is https://github.com/qgis/QGIS/issues/28201,
>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>> is an issue on the NON lutra installs only!
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Nyall
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>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>>
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>>>> +44 (0)7568 129733
>>>>
>>>
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