[Qgis-psc] QGIS Mac Packaging project migration

Sat Jun 29 05:54:30 PDT 2019

Great.  If others are happy could we update the website and put a tweet out
to say they are using the new packages?

On Sat, Jun 29, 2019 at 9:19 PM Tim Sutton <tim at kartoza.com> wrote:

> Hi
>
> Yes I've tested them a lot and from my POV they are
> Good to go.
>
> Regards
>
> Tim
>
> On Sat, 29 Jun 2019, 02:59 Nathan Woodrow, <madmanwoo at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Hey all,
>>
>> There still seems to be some confusion in regards to the state of the OS
>> X installers.  From my understanding, the new Lutra installers are good to
>> go. Is that correct?  These seem to be good?
>> https://qgis.org/downloads/macos/ If so could we have the website
>> updated to use those new installers and add a section (ior not) for the
>> older installers?  The website still points to
>> https://qgis.org/downloads/macOS/
>>
>> Clearing this up for our OS X users would be great to avoid people
>> getting a bad experience with QGIS and allow us to focus on making QGIS
>> better for everyone.
>>
>> Regards,
>> Nathan
>>
>> On Wed, Jun 26, 2019 at 5:58 AM DelazJ <delazj at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Thanks Saber for the explanation/confirmation. I was wondering if the
>>> process was different from Windows.
>>>
>>> Kind regards,
>>> Harrissou
>>>
>>> Le mar. 25 juin 2019 à 21:02, Saber Razmjooei <
>>> saber.razmjooei at lutraconsulting.co.uk> a écrit :
>>>
>>>> And in terms of licences, the same exact licence from Windows installer
>>>> is prompted to user....not sure if we need to apply for another licence for
>>>> this installer or we can use the one obtained a while back for other OSes
>>>> and packing.
>>>>
>>>> Regards
>>>> Saber
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Tue, 25 Jun 2019 at 19:55, Saber Razmjooei <
>>>> saber.razmjooei at lutraconsulting.co.uk> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Hi Harrissou,
>>>>>
>>>>> QGIS one-click installer is very similar to MS Windows installer,
>>>>> where all the required libraries (including GDAL 3rd party drivers) are
>>>>> included within the installer.
>>>>>
>>>>> And yes, the one-click installer, does not support 10.12 due to some
>>>>> Python issue.
>>>>>
>>>>> Kind regards
>>>>> Saber
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Tue, 25 Jun 2019 at 18:52, DelazJ <delazj at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks Peter for the summary (though the multiple versions
>>>>>> side-by-side also applies to kyngchaos, and I guess 10.12 support could be
>>>>>> part of the items)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I'm stuck to 10.12 and from what I read, the all-in-one package does
>>>>>> not (yet? fully?) support it so I'm glad kyngchaos package is there. But my
>>>>>> question (actually addressed to PSC) is whether we need to keep/advertise
>>>>>> the two packages (now? or in the long run?).
>>>>>> And IF we go with the all-in-one package (only), since it engages
>>>>>> QGIS.ORG, I wonder if we should question the 3rd party plugins
>>>>>> embarked. I'm referring to this discussion [0] unless I misunderstand it or
>>>>>> things have changed in the meantime.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> [0]
>>>>>> http://osgeo-org.1560.x6.nabble.com/problems-MAC-and-ecw-raster-files-td5399125.html
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Best regards,
>>>>>> Harrissou
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Le mar. 25 juin 2019 à 12:48, Peter Petrik <
>>>>>> peter.petrik at lutraconsulting.co.uk> a écrit :
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Tim,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> it is not straightforward in the current package, but possible.
>>>>>>> There are multiple ways how to do it, but I have an impression it is not
>>>>>>> something majority of user need. The plugins should have its dependancies
>>>>>>> sorted out by package manager or they should be bundled as wheel in plugins
>>>>>>> if needed.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Peter
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Tue, Jun 25, 2019 at 12:38 PM Tim Sutton <tim at kartoza.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Hi Peter
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Did you ever manage to get something set up so that you can pip
>>>>>>>> install extra packages into the included python in the package folder?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Regards
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Tim
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On 25 Jun 2019, at 11:13, Peter Petrik <
>>>>>>>> peter.petrik at lutraconsulting.co.uk> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> differences:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> old-system (kyngchaos):
>>>>>>>> - separately installed python
>>>>>>>> - separately installed gdal + its modules
>>>>>>>> - 3rd party providers of gdal not included (must be installed
>>>>>>>> separately)
>>>>>>>> - not signed (users needs to install unsigned package)
>>>>>>>> - no nightly builds, no public repository of used scripts
>>>>>>>> - well tested over years
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> new-system
>>>>>>>> - python, gdal, 3rd party modules, ... bundled in one single DMG
>>>>>>>> package
>>>>>>>> - 3-clicks install (download, accept T&C, drop to /Applications)
>>>>>>>> - signed by OSGeo (Apple) certificate
>>>>>>>> - nightly builds, public repo with all scripts used (cooperative
>>>>>>>> maintenance)
>>>>>>>> - multiple versions side-by-side
>>>>>>>> - new system, only partially tested during development and
>>>>>>>> prototyping by few (hundred) users
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>>>> Peter
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Tue, Jun 25, 2019 at 10:56 AM Nyall Dawson <
>>>>>>>> nyall.dawson at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Tue, 25 Jun 2019 at 17:30, Tim Sutton <tim at kartoza.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>> > Hi Saber
>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>> > On some builds there is an issue when opening any file dialog
>>>>>>>>> where it pauses for like 30s before returning control to the user. Let me
>>>>>>>>> test your latest binaries to check these are gone then +1 from me to
>>>>>>>>> publish & promote.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> For reference - this is https://github.com/qgis/QGIS/issues/28201,
>>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>> is an issue on the NON lutra installs only!
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Nyall
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>>>>>>>> —
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>>>
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>>>>> --
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>>>>> www.lutraconsulting.co.uk
>>>>> +44 (0)7568 129733
>>>>>
>>>>
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>>>> +44 (0)7568 129733
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