[Qgis-psc] QGIS Mac Packaging project migration

Sat Jun 29 06:03:51 PDT 2019

I propose writing a blog post (happy to draft one) with the details so that
users can differentiate between the two installers.

Cheers
Saber

On Sat, 29 Jun 2019 at 13:54, Nathan Woodrow <madmanwoo at gmail.com> wrote:

> Great.  If others are happy could we update the website and put a tweet
> out to say they are using the new packages?
>
> On Sat, Jun 29, 2019 at 9:19 PM Tim Sutton <tim at kartoza.com> wrote:
>
>> Hi
>>
>> Yes I've tested them a lot and from my POV they are
>> Good to go.
>>
>> Regards
>>
>> Tim
>>
>> On Sat, 29 Jun 2019, 02:59 Nathan Woodrow, <madmanwoo at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Hey all,
>>>
>>> There still seems to be some confusion in regards to the state of the OS
>>> X installers.  From my understanding, the new Lutra installers are good to
>>> go. Is that correct?  These seem to be good?
>>> https://qgis.org/downloads/macos/ If so could we have the website
>>> updated to use those new installers and add a section (ior not) for the
>>> older installers?  The website still points to
>>> https://qgis.org/downloads/macOS/
>>>
>>> Clearing this up for our OS X users would be great to avoid people
>>> getting a bad experience with QGIS and allow us to focus on making QGIS
>>> better for everyone.
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>> Nathan
>>>
>>> On Wed, Jun 26, 2019 at 5:58 AM DelazJ <delazj at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Thanks Saber for the explanation/confirmation. I was wondering if the
>>>> process was different from Windows.
>>>>
>>>> Kind regards,
>>>> Harrissou
>>>>
>>>> Le mar. 25 juin 2019 à 21:02, Saber Razmjooei <
>>>> saber.razmjooei at lutraconsulting.co.uk> a écrit :
>>>>
>>>>> And in terms of licences, the same exact licence from Windows
>>>>> installer is prompted to user....not sure if we need to apply for another
>>>>> licence for this installer or we can use the one obtained a while back for
>>>>> other OSes and packing.
>>>>>
>>>>> Regards
>>>>> Saber
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Tue, 25 Jun 2019 at 19:55, Saber Razmjooei <
>>>>> saber.razmjooei at lutraconsulting.co.uk> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi Harrissou,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> QGIS one-click installer is very similar to MS Windows installer,
>>>>>> where all the required libraries (including GDAL 3rd party drivers) are
>>>>>> included within the installer.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> And yes, the one-click installer, does not support 10.12 due to some
>>>>>> Python issue.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Kind regards
>>>>>> Saber
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Tue, 25 Jun 2019 at 18:52, DelazJ <delazj at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Thanks Peter for the summary (though the multiple versions
>>>>>>> side-by-side also applies to kyngchaos, and I guess 10.12 support could be
>>>>>>> part of the items)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I'm stuck to 10.12 and from what I read, the all-in-one package does
>>>>>>> not (yet? fully?) support it so I'm glad kyngchaos package is there. But my
>>>>>>> question (actually addressed to PSC) is whether we need to keep/advertise
>>>>>>> the two packages (now? or in the long run?).
>>>>>>> And IF we go with the all-in-one package (only), since it engages
>>>>>>> QGIS.ORG, I wonder if we should question the 3rd party plugins
>>>>>>> embarked. I'm referring to this discussion [0] unless I misunderstand it or
>>>>>>> things have changed in the meantime.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> [0]
>>>>>>> http://osgeo-org.1560.x6.nabble.com/problems-MAC-and-ecw-raster-files-td5399125.html
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Best regards,
>>>>>>> Harrissou
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Le mar. 25 juin 2019 à 12:48, Peter Petrik <
>>>>>>> peter.petrik at lutraconsulting.co.uk> a écrit :
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Tim,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> it is not straightforward in the current package, but possible.
>>>>>>>> There are multiple ways how to do it, but I have an impression it is not
>>>>>>>> something majority of user need. The plugins should have its dependancies
>>>>>>>> sorted out by package manager or they should be bundled as wheel in plugins
>>>>>>>> if needed.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Peter
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Tue, Jun 25, 2019 at 12:38 PM Tim Sutton <tim at kartoza.com>
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Hi Peter
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Did you ever manage to get something set up so that you can pip
>>>>>>>>> install extra packages into the included python in the package folder?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Regards
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Tim
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On 25 Jun 2019, at 11:13, Peter Petrik <
>>>>>>>>> peter.petrik at lutraconsulting.co.uk> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> differences:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> old-system (kyngchaos):
>>>>>>>>> - separately installed python
>>>>>>>>> - separately installed gdal + its modules
>>>>>>>>> - 3rd party providers of gdal not included (must be installed
>>>>>>>>> separately)
>>>>>>>>> - not signed (users needs to install unsigned package)
>>>>>>>>> - no nightly builds, no public repository of used scripts
>>>>>>>>> - well tested over years
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> new-system
>>>>>>>>> - python, gdal, 3rd party modules, ... bundled in one single DMG
>>>>>>>>> package
>>>>>>>>> - 3-clicks install (download, accept T&C, drop to /Applications)
>>>>>>>>> - signed by OSGeo (Apple) certificate
>>>>>>>>> - nightly builds, public repo with all scripts used (cooperative
>>>>>>>>> maintenance)
>>>>>>>>> - multiple versions side-by-side
>>>>>>>>> - new system, only partially tested during development and
>>>>>>>>> prototyping by few (hundred) users
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>>>>> Peter
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Jun 25, 2019 at 10:56 AM Nyall Dawson <
>>>>>>>>> nyall.dawson at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, 25 Jun 2019 at 17:30, Tim Sutton <tim at kartoza.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>> > Hi Saber
>>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>> > On some builds there is an issue when opening any file dialog
>>>>>>>>>> where it pauses for like 30s before returning control to the user. Let me
>>>>>>>>>> test your latest binaries to check these are gone then +1 from me to
>>>>>>>>>> publish & promote.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> For reference - this is https://github.com/qgis/QGIS/issues/28201,
>>>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>>> is an issue on the NON lutra installs only!
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Nyall
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>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> *Tim Sutton*
>>>>>>>>>
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>>>>>> www.lutraconsulting.co.uk
>>>>>> +44 (0)7568 129733
>>>>>>
>>>>>
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